And yes, TI calculators have indeed been improving, apparently.

The TI-84 Plus is a graphing calculator made by Texas Instruments which was released in early 2004. There is no original TI-84, only the TI-84 Plus, the TI-84 Plus Silver Edition models, and the TI-84 Plus CE. The TI-84 Plus is an enhanced version of the TI-83 Plus. The key-by-key correspondence is relatively the same, but the TI-84 features improved hardware. The archive (ROM) is about 3 times as large, and the CPU is about 2.5 times as fast (over the TI-83 and TI-83 Plus)[citation needed]. A USB port and built-in clock functionality were also added. The USB port on the TI-84 Plus series is USB On-The-Go compliant, similar to the next generation TI-Nspire calculator, which supports connecting to USB based data collection devices and probes, and supports device to device transfers over USB rather than over the serial link port.

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    So what you’re saying is that we’ve been dealing with shitty naming schemes in tech for decades?

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    On my TI-83 plus, a fellow students and my calculator were matching rand(int) and it was amazing. Random wasn’t really random. I thought it’d be based on some sort of hidden internal clock.

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      True randomness is really really hard to do in software; bigger CPUs often have hardware random number generators that exploit some sort of quantum or otherwise non-determanistic phenomena, but in software the best you can do is pseudo-random. These are algorithms that generate a sequence of randomly distributed numbers, but in a deterministic way - from a given starting state, it will always generate the same sequence of numbers. Good algorithms are designed to make it hard to infer the starting state just by observing the sequence (if you can do that, you can run the algorithm in parallel and predict the next number), but that’s an active area of research.

      At a guess, the calculator was programmed to initialise the random number generator from something that it is hard for the user to control (milliseconds since power on would be a good one) the first time you used it, but maybe TI got lazy and just initialised it to a constant value

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    There is a website of a person who catalogs Texas Instruments calculators. You can wonder over to the graphing calculator section to see how many different graphing calculators they made along with a bit of information on each one.

    http://datamath.org/

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        That’s web 1.0. Many of us had sites like this on Geocities and Tripod back in the day.

        I absolutely love them too because they’re so content dense where as today this would be a 15 item list where you had to click a new page to see each one while reading several paragraphs of what sounds like the most generic, 6th-grade book report on each one “The TI-84 is a calculator. Many people use calculators to do math…”

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          I love that you can tell they’re a product of passion. Someone was just really into something and wanted to share the info with the world. There’s something beautiful about that.

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    thank you for reminding my to take out the dead batteries from my Ti-86 before they leak!

    still have it next to my desk… since 1997 or so.

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    Do kids still use these? Aka, are their parents forced to pay $100 bucks for this piece of 40 year old technology?

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    Iircc the next level up was the TI 92 which could solve linear equations for you by default which was why they don’t let you use it on standard tests. Also cuz the Ti8x line can be quickly reset.

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      The TI-92 wasn’t allowed on standardized tests due to the qwerty keyboard layout making it be classified as a computer device in the US. The TI-89 has the same CAS functionality as a TI-92 Plus, but in a standardized test approved physical form factor.

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    are there any applications for calculators anymore? I feel like since everything can be done on our phones or computers, what’s the point of a dedicated piece of hardware that’s generally inferior?

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      what’s the point of a dedicated piece of hardware that’s generally inferior?

      Focus/concentration, kinda like how George R R Martin writes on an old DOS computer to eliminate distractions while writing (bad example for expediting work, I know). Still requires you to do a lot of the heavy lifting, which instills knowledge for the future.

      There’s also an element of trust; schools generally trust Texas Instruments that their products do math correctly (you’d be surprised how many calculators don’t), the same cannot be said for MegaPower Graphing Calculator Pro (Ad-Free Premium) off of the Play Store.

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      What do you mean generally inferior?

      It has physical buttons, no distractions, and the batteries last forever compared to a phone.

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      Inferior hardware doesn’t mean inferior performance. Phones do much more than calculators, and calculators just calculate.

      Pacemaker hardware is a million times less powerful than mobile phone hardware. But I trust it more to keep the heart going.

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      I have an HP prime I use at home and work. I also have the app that is identical on my phone, but I am much faster with the physical buttons on the actual calculator. Before I had my HP prime I had a TI 84+ silver and a TI 84+ emulator on my phone with similar experiences.

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    I had one of these ti-84s.

    I also had their “stat” one, it was like a ti-34 or something. It was way easier to use for probability stuff, and parenthesis and plugging in variables to simple polynomials.

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      Lol do 8 + 9 + 4 + 7 + 6 + 5 + 1 + 9 + 7 + 8 + 5 with u shitty 6-number calculator

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        This is a stupid take. Try that on Windows 7’s 3-number calculator (basically replicated in Windows 10’s standard mode calculator) and see what happens: 8+9 will get calculated to 17 the moment you hit the + after 9, and 17 gets stored in the first memory.

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          It’s… not a take… it’s a dumb joke… was trying to make the equation dumb enough that it was obvious, but apparently it was not clear enough. Holy what are these responses

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    Got an OG TI-83 when it first came out as an upgrade to my TI-82 circa 1997. Still use my 83 regularly.

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      Because that would have eaten into their price gouging. In the age of the iPhone, Texas Instruments was able to charge upwards of $100 for a Zilog Z80 powered nothing machine because they’re quasi mandatory for high school and college students.