Can we just take a second to appreciate how fucking sick of a sign “MY UTERUS > YOUR GOD” is?
Best. Sign. Ever.
I’ll remember that. Thank you.
I quite like this sign from the Women’s March a few years ago-
I’m gonna be making these in bulk and pinning them up everywhere, holy shit
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Do you accept Your Uterus as your Lord and Savior?
I wonder what would happen if even just 50% of all women of child bearing age moved out of the states that added these abortion restrictions, that would basically destroy the states population in a few generations.
I wonder what the response would be…
Probably something terrible, and possibly illegal that would still somehow be permitted…
I am just a guy from Scandinavia looking at the US with complete disbelief that this shit happen in the west in this day and age.
To everyone fighting for this to be repealed I wish you all the best, and to all of those in favour of these restrictions, just stop voting, and go away.
What I have understood as a non American, the state would still have the same voting power though? So -75% of people, leaving just angry men I guess.
Sorta, but that’s not the whole story. We have two legislative bodies, the House of Representatives and the Senate. In the senate, every state gets two senators. In the house, every state gets at least two representatives, plus some amount based on population - california has 52, for instance.
The original idea was to “make sure rural voices were heard”. In practice, it very much has been what you stated - if you’re educated but not rich enough to benefit from republican policies, you flee red states en masse, leaving mostly rich assholes and uneducated chucklefucks who are hurt most by the very people they elect. They then have a massively disproportionate effect on policy versus any joe schmoe in california.
The problem is moving isn’t free and there aren’t good jobs in rural areas, meaning… Move with what money?
I wasn’t even thinking about that, a 50% reduction in women in child bearing age would absolutely ruin the future population growth of the state, and on an even more basic level, would mean that a lot of men would never find a partner in the state, so they would need to move to other states to find someone, which means even more population loss.
At some point the situation would be so critical that there would be no choice but to change the laws back, and even after that it would take a LONG time for people to get the confidence to move back.
Conservatives don’t care. The people who stay in the state would reliably vote Republican, so that’s two guaranteed Senate seats.
The amount of electoral votes per state is adjusted based on its population, but they all get a minimum of 3. So, if enough people left, it would have some effect on the state’s voting power, but once you get to a certain threshold, the weight of each person’s vote actually starts to go up.
(Sarcasm) Don’t insult the west by lumping the US in with sane respectable nations. (/Sarcasm) The US is a third world country with some lipstick on at this point. We keep hoping to turn things around and put us back on course but. Damn is it exhausting.
I’m in the USA and we’re a garbage country. Don’t get me wrong, there are good areas and good people. But our broken system allows the craziest minority to have an outsized degree of power and they absolutely take advantage of it.
How a state like Wyoming, with fewer than a million people, can get as much say (in the senate) as my state of California is beyond me. We have almost 80x their population, yet they get an equal number of senators. I want a revolution that adjusts their voice to be proportional to their goddamned size.
I am too. There’s a reason I chose a lemmy host outside our borders.
(OK, it was mostly so the government has free reign to accidentally spy on my international traffic because FISA/PATRIOT act are just so cool and down to earth. /s)
Did you miss civics class? Having both a senate and a house was a compromise between the smaller and bigger states. Small states could have been railroaded by bigger states with strictly proportional representation. It’s almost like you’re repeating something you heard without thinking about it much…
It’s a stupid compromise to make. It might have made some sense at the time, when society expected them to behave as gentlemen with regard for their honor. Now a much smaller group gets to bully the rest of the country as a result.
There was a time and a reason for a lot of the old ways. We have the technology to make them irrelevant. That being said, I do feel there should be limitations in Federal decisions given the country is huge, and broad sweeping laws can negatively affect lower population areas.
We also have a bunch of basic life shit that absolutely should be Federally decided, and instead of letting people be people and live their lives, we apparently purposely try our hardest to go backwards right now. Many states are literally complicit in murdering women by law, and making it so people of different sexual or biological orientations are no longer people. How the fuck is it 2024 and women and others of various alignments are suddenly not people?
Did you know that the Supreme Court only exists because the “ultra rich” of the founding fathers’ time felt they didn’t have proper representation in government? This was their “check and balance” that let us become a nation.
Do we really need 50 states and territories in this era? If we must have them we could divide and merge based on population similar to the slate article. https://slate.com/culture/2014/10/if-every-u-s-state-had-the-same-population-what-would-the-map-of-america-look-like.html
A few generations? One generation is enough. The population would collapse and they would be fucked.
Yeah any significant change in gender demographics of an area will cause problems. Too few men will cause some issues but our cultures have developed defenses around this problem thanks to cataclysmic wars happening every few generations. Too few women on the other hand will get real bad real fast especially since this will be a situation of existing misogyny driving women away. Some men will get real violent and those capable of living in either society will flee because they won’t get laid otherwise.
Forget population and generations. 25% of people just leaving an area will lead to a massive economic downturn.
You’d give those states all the electoral votes and senate seats, and they’d apply their laws at the federal level. I’m suspicious that’s their plan. Drive all the liberals out of these conservative states that were at risk of turning blue so they can take their policies federal.
Also if it’s mostly women leaving, that makes it easier to recruit men into armies if they are told it will help them get laid when there’s a huge imbalance. And easier to elect leaders who push male superiority ideas and that women should defer to men.
I bet they’d supercharge enforcement of the laws they’ve been testing - such as intercepting women leaving the state for suspected abortions, or parents suspected of taking children out of the state for gender affirming care
The laws are set up that you could basically set up roadblocks and force a fight through the system to leave the state… Keeping people from leaving is important if you want a fascist state, because they suck and only “true believers” wouldn’t consider moving
That’s why those laws are so terrifying… They don’t have to convict anyone, they can just be used to suppress movement
I wonder what would happen if even just 50% of all women of child bearing age moved out of the states that added these abortion restrictions,
I wonder what would happen if they actually voted?
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/
I knew of a girl when I was in high school. She was a senior and I was a sophomore. Word began rushing through the school that she (head cheerleader) was pregnant by the quarterback on the football team. He came from a super wealthy family, and honestly we all expected an immediate marriage and a ‘premature’ baby.
What happened instead was an announcement that she had died during emergency surgery and let’s all pray. She had had a (what we called) backstreet abortion and hemorrhaged.
We all knew how to access an illegal abortion, we knew the risks, and this girl just was the unlucky one.
She was super smart, in the Latin club, debate, 4.0, just destined for success. And instead she died.
This was in 1969, and I cannot believe we as a nation are willing to go back over 2 decades in women’s healthcare.
She had had a (what we called) backstreet abortion and hemorrhaged.
Banning abortions doesn’t stop abortion, it only stops safe abortions.
You can blame the Moral Majority. So many of them would look at your story and go “well that’s what she deserved for having premarital sex”.
You know 1969 was 55 years ago? While that is technically “over 2 decades” that’s an interesting way to describe 55 years lol
Technically correct is the best kind of correct
Haha!! I was trying to type 55!!
I avoid having kids by simply being completely unappealing to women. 😤
Is it possible to learn such power?
Not from a normie
But he have fancy username? 🧐
The simplest way is to be a Reddit mod.
That’s too much. I still want to be loved by my family and friends.
If you’re loved by family and friends, there’s always the chance, especially if she’s Canadian.
Do you own a fedora?
Does my Aussie hat count?
It may not, especially if you have the accent.
But if you called it a fedora without knowing the difference? It just might.
I don’t have an accent. Not an Aussie accent. I wear the hat and duster cuz I had a friend from there got me started on them about a decade ago and I stick to them rather adamantly because I appreciate what they do so much the entire concept of regional reference bears nothing on my skin when the fiction is so greatly better than anything else remotely close
So, you know when you see a woman, and you speak with her like a normal person and form a connection? Nothing good comes of that.
Instead of doing that, convince yourself in your head that saying even two words is going to end in disaster and then play on your phone and awkwardly pretend they aren’t there until they go away.
It’s hard, but with enough practice it will become second nature. You’ve got this!
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I’d sooner worship an organ than a fairy tale.
Those don’t have to be different either.
Wdym? Magic uterus?
Faeries are anything.
/> = Better at actually doing the creation act than we’ve ever seen God do.
Unfortunately, I think the people who should be sterilizing themselves are not the ones doing it. (not talking about eugenics)
Next step for Republicans: Ban sterilization. I mean plenty of doctors already refuse to agree for a patient to have a vasectomy/get their tubes tied, especially young (and white) patients, because of shitty personal beliefs. Why not go a step further? These working class heathens need to be forced to stay in line.
My mum, when she was in her mid40s, went to get her tubes tied. Dr refused, “still of child bearing age.” Her response: I’ve got 6 kids, tie these damn tubes or I’ll do it myself!
Edit: a word
I mean, if she wasn’t ‘of child bearing age’ anymore there wouldn’t be any point in tying her tubes anyway, so that’s a pointless reason.
Right?
I recently went in for the snip because I’m in a state that wants to keep rolling back rights and already have a pretty awesome kid. My area also has a population of people who I don’t quite understand that were definitely judging me for my choice.
I went to a highly rated urologist office that was a part of my insurance plan, though the procedure isn’t covered, other aspects like the initial consultation were. The first receptionist I talked with quickly changed her tone toward me when I said I wanted a vasectomy and made a big deal about not being sure my insurance was accepted. She said she would call me back by EOD after she checked my insurance. This was midmorning on a Thursday. I never heard back. I called back a week or so later, different receptionist. She put me on hold for a few minutes to verify my insurance plan and we set an appointment for the consultation.
On the day of the consultation, the nurse who showed me to the exam room visibly changed her demeanor as soon as I stated why I was there. Thankfully the doctor was all business and the nurses assisting spring the procedure a few weeks later were professional and kind.
There are definitely some medical professionals out there who want to put their own beliefs over those of their patients. I didn’t think it was as prevalent as it likely is.
Also ban viagra. Impotence is the will of god.
As a male, (who thankfully doesn’t need it, yet) I agree with this 100%. If these clowns are going to force their beliefs on others, they should have to face the same consequences. Make it illegal, not enough to ban it.
Can we please not do the “it hurts the other side more”-bullshit? Especially in light of the fact that Viagra has legitimate medical uses outside of ED and that ED can also be caused by factors that affect conservatives a lot less, such as HRT for trans women.
Sorry, god says only natural boners
Don’t mind me, my trans ass is just over here laughing about how “concerned” the GOP is about trans kids’ fertility while lighting a fire under the ass of cis adults (which you may have noticed greatly outnumber trans children!) to get themselves permanently sterilized.
Also they love to make it a pain in the ass to bank genetic material. Like, if they covered that in health insurance a lot of trans people would just in case
Won’t be long before the christian shithead republiclowns outlaw that too.
…and that’s why I’m getting it done next month. I’m genuinely worried it’s now or never.
wow, that is absolutely awful.
That you have such Fear of your Government i mean.
It’s not the government, it’s the republiclowns. They’re in power because of the idiots that keep voting for them because fox “news” tells them to. Nobody besides the rich as shit should be voting red. (the rich as shit are assholes and they at least benefit from the tax breaks) They’re just laughing at you while they piss all over you.
I support any person who chooses not to have children. It’s saving the planet. There are way too many people.
You keep being told that. There are way too many billionaires, that’s the real problem.
Billionaires are a huge issue and so is over population.
There is enough money and resources on earth for the population, but not as long as those dragons are alive. Billionaires need to be exterminated.
Indeed, there’s more than 0.
2 things can be true at the same time.
Not really. The people there are just put in little effort not to screw up the planet .
“Overpopulation” is a right-wing myth.
Overpopulation as a dogwhistle for racism is a conservative myth.
Overpopulation in a “I’d rather not turn Earth into Coruscant and so many of our climate and food/water issues would be easier to deal with if the global birth rate slowed voluntarily” is not.
Overpopulation as a dogwhistle for racism is a
conservativeright-wing myth.FTFY.
I’d rather not turn Earth into Coruscant
Sooo… when will you actually be rejecting this right-wing myth?
Soon, I hope?
“as”
We can handle feeding everybody, we can’t handle the trash.
We don’t need to make nearly this much trash; it’s just more profitable for shareholders. Not denying that some plastics are essential for medicine though.
We can handle feeding everybody, we can’t handle the
trashcapitalist parasitism.FTFY.
The fear of overpopulation, of the poors overbreeding and overcrowding the rich is basically a given in all political elites. Basically part of the washington consensus.
Our current, below replacement birthrate, no matter how much they try to hide it, is not an accident.
Environmental eugenics is still eugenics
Hey, haaaaave ya ever heard of personal autonomy?
Exactly what part of that is eugenics? Deciding not to have kids, or recognizing the environmental impact of the choice?
“There’s too many people on earth” is a eugenicists talking point by affluent westerners. It’s a short slippery slope from there to completely dehumanizing humans born in nations deemed “lesser than”
My main argument for antinatalism is that there are too many idiots willing to reproduce and raise children as bigger idiots than they are.
Instead of dehumanizing people for being born in a crowded, exploited region you dehumanize them for being less educated than you.
It’s not a question of education, but of willing persistence in stupidity, entitlement and hubris.
The irony of you decrying hubris in people you deem lesser than yourself is lost on you
And if you really want to raise kids, adoption is a win-win-win for you, them, and the planet
Isn’t it really expensive in a lot of places?
It can be. The system is intentionally bogged down with a lot of red tape to discourage people who aren’t fully committed to raising a child, especially one that isn’t their own biological offspring. The thing is, raising kids is expensive in general. You’ll shell out millions over their lifetime for basic necessities, education and enrichment. If somebody balks at the cost of adoption, they probably aren’t ready for kids yet anyway.
It is, but a pregnancy with regular checkups, screening for potential issues, and delivery in a hospital isn’t cheap, either, even when everything goes without issue. If there are complications and the baby needs to stay in a NICU or have surgeries, it can be far more expensive than adoption.
Except if you’re not in the US. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still expensive to have a kid, but there’s no risk of going broke during birth procedures (complicated or not) in most developed and even some developing countries.
Solid point. I’ve had it pretty good most of my life, but I’m so used to this ass backwards way of doing things that I often forget about how much better it can and should be.
I’m in Canada, this would mostly be free
People are simply not going to be forced to have kids. Repuglicans are completely blind to that fact
This is a good article about how one woman figured out how to do abortions herself. https://story.californiasunday.com/abortion-providers/
This is what will happen.
Didnt read all of it but what i did read was quite interesting. Just as interesting was the lack of popups and banner ads on the page.
That is a very good magazine and I read it a lot. High quality.
Read past tense though as it seemed to be cancelled.
Well, except for the quiver-full crowd and all the women indoctrinated into the barefoot and pregnant school of thought.
In other words, the poor, stupid, and indoctrinated will continue to spew out kids while the educated and reasoned will make the choice not to, therefore the stupid will inherit the earth.
The meek shall inherit. The stupid is anything but meek these days
That is literally the logical falicy that Idiocracy makes fun of and nature vs. nurture is still an ongoing discussion.
I don’t see how that depends on it being nature or nurture. Nature: they will be like their parents because of genetics. Nurture: they will be like their parents because that’s who’s raising them.
I’ve said this elsewhere, but if you are in the states and have health insurance sterilization is covered! For those with lady bits too! This changed with ACA and as soon as it was in effect I started searching for doctors. Easier said than done unless you are old or already have children. But it is possible now, unless you are in some state that used their right to take that right away.
How long until we see cishet women with “no unsnipped guys” in their Tinder bios?
Not sketchy at all /$
Banning abortion is really gonna pump those birth rates up!
Oh wait…
Fuckin for real good for these folks for taking matters into their own hands.
