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      Are we sure this deal is about answering new SO questions with LLM? It’s more likely to be a deal where SO sells access to its database to OpenAI so they can use human-generated content for LLM training, and SO gets to use LLM as a more efficient search through its human-generated content.

      It’s possible they could also choose to delegate the duplicate decision to the LLM but let’s be honest, that decision is currently crap anyway.

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        I think the joke is that the AI trained on SO data to the point that duplicate, similar, or common questions would get this treatment. Since that’s common enough on SO to be a meme.

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        Yeah, that was my assumption as well. I wonder how they’re going to work around that SO is getting spammed with AI-generated answers, though. You really don’t want your LLM cannibalizing itself.

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          That’s SO’s problem going forward. OpenAI already got what they wanted – legal access to SO’s database up to this moment, when it’s still mostly human.

          I didn’t say this was a good deal for SO.

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        Have you tried using Windows 11 instead of your weird Linux distro? Windows 11 is the best Operation system in the market, by the greatest software company Microsoft. It features the best user experience, not only removing all those complicated settings from your grasp but providing you with suggestions tailored just for you!

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          …Did you just speculated a terrifyingly credible AI-generated Microsoft ad disguised as genuine tech support?

          Confusing realization here

          Isn’t that like an AI ad about AI and ads?

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            I think it is important to value and respect everyone’s OS choices. I have made great experiences with using the latest AI tools that OpenAI and Microsoft provided and continue to improve every day. I can understand that people might be skeptical of AI at first, because it is a new and complicated technology. Windows 11 shows that you don’t need to understand every detail about it. You can use AI to make your life easier by just talking to it like it is your best friend. Using a computer never has been easier.

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    What annoys me about companies like StackOverflow, Reddit, Twitter, etc. partnering with AI firms is that they do not actually create any of the content on their platforms. Sure, if you read the terms they technically own the data, but still…

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      Just more nonsense showing how broken modern copyright is. It’s too hard to write weasely legalese to just say you have the right to reproduce content submitted to your website, you have to own it entirely. And if you own it, why not sell it?

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        It’s not difficult at all, these companies just have no reason to do it that way. They force you to agree to their terms before you can use the website at all, which means they’re in a much better position to make demands. We can’t counter with anything, it’s just “agree that we own this copy of your content”.

        And most of us agree to it because we have no way of knowing that someday our content might actually be worth something.

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      That’s basically what most tech companies are trying to optimize these days, the ability to make money off of other people’s work. It’s why they’re so hyped about trying to use AI to replace the very workers it’s trained on.

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        Most of modern civilization wasn’t built by the current S&P500 — most of them didn’t exist 50 years ago, let alone 100 — it was built by humanity, collectively, over thousands of years.

        That fact won’t stop any individual or corporation from trying to claim absolute dominion over the entire human population, all derivative works and resources, or the rest of our descendants futures, for all eternity.

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          The goal of every thief is to take something of value from someone else without any repercussions for themselves.

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      That exactly tracks. You can’t feed answers from an AI into an AI. It gets all incesty (technical term). So they have to ban user submitted AI answers.

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      Were they trying to avoid having AI produced output sold as LLM input along with their human user generated content? I wonder if this was some big picture decision or pure coincidence.

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      Banning AI answers was reasonable though. People were posting were too many not verified and incorrect code snippets that entire quality of the platform would decrease. AI still makes more mistakes than humans that provide responses on stack.

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    lol this is going to be fantastically catastrophic. ChatGPT is going to end up indirectly writing so much code. And I am fully aware how often ChatGPT give you absolute nonsense when asked to write some code. It’s got a decently high hit rate for relatively unchallenging stuff, but it is nowhere NEAR 100% accurate.

    TL;DR stackoverflow doesn’t understand how many developers naively copypaste shit from stackoverflow I guess? Wcgw

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      I don’t think this will affect StackOverflow website though? The blog implies that ChatGPT will use StackOverflow API to use as a knowledge source (and probably be paid for it).

      OpenAI and Stack Overflow are coming together via OverflowAPI access to provide OpenAI users and customers with the accurate and vetted data foundation that AI tools need to quickly find a solution to a problem […]. OpenAI will also surface validated technical knowledge from Stack Overflow directly into ChatGPT, giving users easy access to trusted, attributed, accurate, and highly technical knowledge and code backed by the millions of developers that have contributed to the Stack Overflow platform for 15 years.

      This seems to be exactly to prevent hallucinations when there’s a good vetted answer already.

      Either people didn’t read the blog or is there something I’m missing?

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      Me: How would I write a for-loop that starts from the end of a list?

      ChatGPT: Closing this conversation as this question has already been answered.

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        The working solution being 5 child comments deep on a wrong solution flagged as correct is my favorite.

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      Attribution — You must give appropriate credit

      So, if Stack Overflow generates text based on any answer (or question) in Stack Overflow’s DB, it must credit the person whose text it adapted.

      Good luck with that…

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        I mean, Bing gives you link references in its answers, maybe something like that?

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      Don’t forget NPM.

      And, while we’re at it:

      • Bethesda
      • Activision
      • Blizzard
      • Obsidian
      • Mojang
      • Rare