Firefox’s Enhanced Tracking Protection (Strict Mode) is known to cause issues on x.com

There were no “issues”; everything was working completely fine. This is a deliberate decision to force people to turn off tracking protection.

I saw a recommendation to use Firefox’s container extension https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers, but it’s disabled in private browsing windows, and I always use private browsing windows.

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      It really baffles me how often I still see it talked about. Especially on Lemmy. I never liked it myself but now the musk owns it, I would’ve assumed there wouldn’t be much controversy here: it’s dead and gone, move on, people.

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        Problem is it isn’t gone and it’s still helping foment huge political/social issues in the US. It impacts us whether we want it to or not.

        Doesn’t mean I use it. I don’t. But it negatively impacts my life all the same.

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          Ah yes politics, the thing that can be discussed in 140 characters or less. Twitter is definitely the prime place for this discourse.

          I get what you’re saying, I really do, I just think its super fucked up that our politicians have collectively decided this is THE place to engage people when there is no political topic that could possibly be discussed properly this way. I’m pretty sure I already exceeded the limit just saying this.

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            i’m fairly sure the point (whether calculated, or more likely, mostly not) of having politics moved there is because there is no political topic that could be discussed properly there. it makes for good, distracting noise.

            it makes for a lack of meaningful critique, or for that critique to be instantly buried in bad actors. noise is a shield. noise is easily dismissable.

            monetized social media, in general, is made to be clickbait, to feed negative emotions because that’s what gets people addicted to outrage, it steers people towards thinking less and reacting more. nuanced discussion and thoughtful spaces are drowned out and cast aside for the loudest and most obnoxious players. this is appealing for someone trying to uphold the status quo or push society towards hate.

            i don’t think it’s a coincidence that politicians have moved there, that spaces have become so polarized and negatively charged, and that the most prime example of both of these happenings is xwitter. everything is connected in this big, terrible, and vaguely randomly evolved system. i do think evolution is the best word for it. what lives, survives to propagate. it doesn’t matter how healthy it is. the result is this blind, meandering, gargantuan worm, following the scent of blood, feeding on the worst of it all.

            xwitter is easy and, notably, if you’re a powerful white man, you can build your base with no accountability. it exists in this space where it’s the most serious news source that almost no one takes that seriously. of course it’s appealing.

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              i’m fairly sure the point (whether calculated, or more likely, mostly not) of having politics moved there is because there is no political topic that could be discussed properly there. it makes for good, distracting noise.

              It’s more stupid than that. The idea is that 140 characters is a lower barrier of entry for a reader, compared to reading a series of paragraphs that might be able to at least talk about something, or attempt to summarize an issue. It’s why accounts like wint can pop off, and become so prolific.

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                  I mean I just don’t think it’s so much a calculated effort by the ruling class as kind of a natural evolution of the market taking hold of and exploiting the human mind to the nth possible degree, such as they have always done.

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            It doesn’t matter if its the worst possible place if its still the only place they can operate in. The biggest soap box is what they want.

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          the stinking corpses of all these corporations that don’t realize they’re already dead impact all of us, but they’re still dead, aren’t they? hnnngg die already!

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        I’ve found a fair amount of strong loyalty to the place from all sorts of people. I was never a twitter person, so I don’t understand it, but AFAICT, all sorts of people have a real emotional bond to the place, like for them it’s been their main internet experience in life or something.

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      I made accounts on Mastodon and Blue Sky but most people still use Twitter, so if there’s info you’re looking for, or if you want to share things, you’re forced to use what most people are using.

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        I deleted my 2007-era Twitter account in 2022 and not once have I felt like I was missing out on any “info” or felt like I wasn’t able to share things.

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          I’ve never had a Twitter account and never felt the need for one, also haven’t been missing out on that junk. I’ve read lots of tweets, on occasions when I was offered a twitter link for whatever, but just never felt like I needed to join up at all. Just seems like a waste of time to get on social media where all the posts are just small bits of opinionated content without much depth.

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        Thats cool but it is a transitional thing. If you keep going back the transition doesn’t happen. Stand your ground.

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        What info do you need from Twitter you can’t get elsewhere unless you’re a journalist? Genuine question this isn’t bait lol

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          I just accepted I’m not getting the information now; but a whole bunch of small creators will basically only talk about their content and schedule on twitter. Like if something is going to be late, they are going on vacation or they are doing an extra stream or etc.

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          I’m not sure, but wanted to add another hot take: if you’re a journalist and you use Twitter as a primary source for your work, you’re not a journalist.

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        You can do your part to get that info off of Twitter.

        Get a separate browser just for Twitter use. If there’s info that’s only on Twitter re-post it elsewhere.

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        I hear you … most people are still there (I’ve claimed in the past that it will be the MS Windows of social media, that no one really openly talks about using but is actually everywhere).

        But I feel it may be useful to distinguish FOMO and social media gossip from actual useful information. I’m not saying there’s nothing useful on Twitter (I don’t actually know). But we’re talking about microblogging and social media here.

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        I was resistant to ending my use of reddit, but now they have nerfed the mobile site so bad I can’t even login anymore so I’ve stopped trying. I still peruse it on my PC at least once daily but I think that the moment RES finally stops working will spell the end of that.

        As for Facebook. I mostly keep it around for an easy connection to family and friend and a few meme groups that amuse me. But again, only like once a day do I check in ion that site.

        Edit: I should mention that I have never and will never use either of those website’s apps.

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      Stop humouring the assholes that are still on that bigoted network. It’s X not twitter. Twitter is dead.

      Every time someone calls it twitter, don’t give them the satisfaction of disassociating themselves from Musky’s X.

      Oh so you’re an X’er. You like to Xeet a lot eh?

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      To answer your question, it’s inertia. People need to be forced of Twitter if before they join Mastodon/Bluesky/Threads

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      I use it to scream into the void and be completely uncivil because I’m civil and soft-spoken in the rest of life. In other words, I go to the dumpster when I feel like treating Trump supporters like trash :)

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      The Gods forbid I try to literally read something

      The real question is why people keep using Twitter despite how impossible it is to even visit the website

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        because unlike lemmy where its usually about following topics, twitter is about following people, and migration requires said people who theyre following to also migrate

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          While this is true, I think if this is a hassle for most people, then something is very wrong with the world

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      Until the creators of the content you need switch, it’s one of if not the hub where the content is.

      This would be easy to “solve” from the reader end if Nitter was still operational, but I haven’t heard from the project or from any alternative in ages.

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        If you stop going to twitter to see the content, the creators would be forced to move. How important can the content be?

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          Dunno! I haven’t been to Twitter since Elon bought it and activated our scorched-earth protocols. Twitter hasn’t been accessible on any device in our network since then.

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        The project was using a way to bypass requiring a backing account to proxy the requests, but the API update broke that

        The instances that chose (and choose) to go the extra mile by creating and maintaining proxy account(s) are the ones still working

        If the instance gets too popular the twitter goons quickly figure out what the proxy account is and ban it, though. So it’s a constant game of cat and mouse.

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      Every so often someone posts something on Lemmy or somewhere else which contains a Twitter link that’s interesting or relevant, and so there is value in me visiting it. Just because I don’t “use” Twitter doesn’t mean I don’t end up reading a Twitter post every so often, because other people use it.

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      I think it is called the network effect. People are still using Twitter because the messages they want to see are being posted there, and those messages are being posted there because that’s where the audience is. So, basically, people are locked in.

      This also means that any loss in user count has a double effect, as not only users are lost, but the utility of the service for the remaining users decreases. So, what I’m saying is, if Elon continues this way, at some point there will be a large exodus of users from Twitter, as each loss of users reduces the utility of Twitter further, triggering a chain reaction.

      Of course, we can’t know when that happens, and since we’re both on Lemmy, we’ve already self-selected as people with little tolerance for enshittification.

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        I’m not so sure. I check in on the hot mess that is Twitter from time to time and it looks to me like the advertisers are returning from the ads that I have seen. I think it comes down to how willing Musk is to burn money on when Twitter actually dies and I bet he can find friends of a certain type to sell equity too to keep the shit show going.

        I think we have reached the point that those that are willing to hold their noses are staying and those that aren’t have gone and that’s your new user figures.

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      Porn… Until enough adult accounts move over to Mastodon or Blue Sky.

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      Well Twitter is still used by Musk fanboys, right wingers, from people who don’t understand Mastodon and/or the Fediverse and probably from people who use it for porn.

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          I don’t but many people do since many creators use Twitter for that. I personally don’t get why they don’t switch to Mastodon or another Fediverse software since there are probably NSFW instances too and if not some of them could team up and create one.

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    The thing people miss when they boast “wElL I DoNT uSe iT sO nOt mY pRoBlEm” is that an increasingly large proportion of our society does use these shit platforms, and for longer periods too. We have to live in this world with all the brainrotted zombies so it is actually our problem too.

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        Also responding to unrelated topics will make some think you’re a bot. The conversation should happen organically. It’ll get you clicks but not positive interaction.

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      People are still using that shit because other people they want to interact with are still using that shit. Network effects are hard to break.

      I occasionally use it to complain at corporations, mostly when their websites show me captchas but occasionally for other customer service issues.

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      Because of inertia. There are entire industries that were built around Twitter. For years, it was an incredible networking opportunity that you were missing out on if you weren’t active. For example, many artists used twitter for discoverability; They could post their art on Twitter, and it would get much broader reach than on other social networks.

      This is why substitutes like Mastodon have struggled to take off, and it’s why even the early adopters still crosspost everything to both twitter and Mastodon. Mastodon simply doesn’t have the user base required to have that same kind of discoverability. It would need to reach a critical mass level where it’s able to sustain itself without twitter. And it’s unfortunately not there.

      Whether it will ever reach that point is up for debate; The same way Reddit’s scummy practices were a huge boon for lemmy, only time will tell if the same will happen to twitter. The issue is that the vast majority of users simply don’t care about a negative experience on the site. Sure, there are vocal critics, but those are often the minority who are extremely incensed and will be the most likely to change. But once those critics have fled, the vast majority still remains on twitter and now there aren’t any critics pushing for change.

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      Agreed, it’s unfortunate that some people rely on it for work.

      Personally I only go on there unintentionally when I don’t look at the link I am clicking on beforehand

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      Highkey though I kind of don’t want to help people leave Twitter to go to Lemmy. While the increase in posts would be great, the kind of toxicity and general culture that follows can most definitely ruin a website.

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        Tbh I didn’t mean to Lemmy, so much as simply off Twitter in general, preferably to a non-corporate social site. It may be naive/idealistic, but I think those most inclined to leave would be the better of the bunch, and those in-between are more apt to go to another corporate site anyway (e.g. Threads).

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        I personally locked my account, and only going there to “spy” on some people only being active there, or to interact with some mutual. It’s too much of a toxic pit, the porn bots now even post illegal stuff, and the site is buggy. It was quite good for my mental health to delete that app from my phone though. I miss the community I had there, some I’m instead in contact on Discord (I have a Matrix account too, haven’t been using it much), some on Mastodon. That community was slowly disappearing since the Musk takeover, not because of my absence from what is now basically just a 4chan that is still somehow attracts corporations. I wonder if I manage to find a new one soon, or maybe even create my own.

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        Is there a problem other than Nazis and other far right idiots spamming their hot takes? That’s certainly a culture problem but hopefully most instances just ban Nazis instead of letting the cancer grow.

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      Twitter’s trying pretty hard on its own.

      Even the people sticking around because they have followers keep getting banned. Guys: if you have to start a new account, do it somewhere better.

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      The only reason I was on Twitter was because I follow some famous people, politicians that I like and some interesting people. I have no following (except for those onlyfans bots) so maybe if the people we follow gets rid of Twitter then we have nothing to go there for.

      I left Twitter just after musk bought it.

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    issue detected: we are having trouble collecting enough personal info

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    Every time someone writes x.com I immediately think they’re talking about a porn site. What a shit rebrand. Or what a perfect name I guess?

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    We’re getting closer and closer to the complete destruction of this worthless shithole, keep it up elon!

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      Unfortunately, shaking off users who are digitally conscious enough to use Firefox (and recommend alternatives) probably improves Twitter’s odds.

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    Looks like they’re in A/B testing right now. You can have maximal impact by avoiding using twitter on those devices for the next few weeks.