• Tattorack@lemmy.world
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    Half the time piped links won’t work for me and the other half of the time the videos buffer incredibly slow.

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      I think it’s not a good idea to leave links to Piped instead of YouTube (same for Nitter/Twitter, Libreddit/Reddit, etc.). If you want to avoid YouTube, then just install LibRedirect extension or similar. Piped links are temporary, they’ll break sooner or later, making it difficult for people to get to the website.

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        The problem that I see is that all of these alternatives still rely on YouTube at the end of the day.

        And the cost of setting up a new video hosting site that’s free to consume content from is ridiculous.

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          Something that is federated like PeerTube would solve that specific issue, I believe. Many sites with their own user able to interact with each other. The biggest problem there is that there exists no good app to interact with PeerTube. You can use NewPipe or Greyjay, but you have to know the PeerTube instances first, no what’s popular in the fediverse tab.

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            Peertube is great. And while the lack of an app is a problem, the lack of having a way to make money out if your videos is a bigger one for creators.

            For now, they have to rely on Patreon or an equivalent.

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              And while the lack of an app is a problem,

              You can watch PeerTube videos on NewPipe.

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              That is a good point, I appreciate the response. I wonder if there is a way to attract advertisers responsibly, or if advertising is really the best way to monetize content. I’m not in that world so I don’t know the best solution in that regard, but a monolithic entity certainly isn’t.

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            Greyjay

            Grayjay is great IMO. It combines video from a variety of sources, such as YouTube, Odyssee, Rumble, PeerTube, Twitch, etc. I disable most of those, but I do have some channels on multiple platforms. Also, there’s a feature to recognize the same content across services for the same creator, so users can choose the service they want the content from.

            It’s Android only, so hopefully they add more platforms eventually. One annoying thing is that it’s not really open source, it’s just “source available,” but that’s way better than the propriety platforms they’re providing an alternative to. That said, there are a few things I don’t like about it:

            • rotate doesn’t work reliably for me - I just got a new phone, so I’ll see if it’s still an issue
            • seems like it uses way more resources than necessary (i.e. compared to NewPipe)
            • kinda buggy sometimes - it is getting regular updates, so I think it’s just growing pains

            And some things I love about it:

            • available outside of the Play Store - I get updates within the app, just like on a desktop app, or I can install through F-Droid (they have their own repo)
            • PiP - I like having it open while wasting time on Lemmy
            • no ads or other nonsense - you can buy a license, but features aren’t gated behind paying (I’m planning to pay once rotate is fixed)
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              I mainly use Grayjay, and I did pay because I believe that if I use a product and you ask for payment, I will pay. The only thing that I have found lacking is the lack of a good autoplay feature. I don’t use autoplay most of the time, but it makes driving easier, as well as finding new content/creators. Rotate is weird, I have a few bugs there as well.

              However, I still think the point stands that it is difficult to find content creators because there are a thousand instances and no real way to parse the creators in a reasonable way, in order to find new content. You can find instances, but that is the long way. There needs to be a way to parse what is on the peertube part of the fediverse easily before it is going to be remotely appealing/usable to anyone outside our very niche, very nerdy circle.

              On mastodon, for example, I can search for a hashtag and it will search the entirety of those servers federated with my home server for that hashtag. Do that with peertube, and its the best option for users, IMHO. Monetization will have to get worked out to attract creators.

              Grayjay, though, great app with some room to improve. Already better than NewPipe in some ways.

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                My new phone doesn’t seem to have the rotate issue, so the biggest annoyance for me now is the lack of channel playlists (i.e. go to a YouTube channel and see their curated playlists). I don’t need that to pay though, so I’ll probably go pay soon.

                And yeah, it’s a great app. I still need NewPipe though.

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      I had a similar time with piped not working reliably, I prefer invidious, specifically iv.ggtyler.dev has pretty much always worked for me

      Anyways, It’s really easy to just swap for another instance or whatever

      OP link is

      https://piped.video/watch?v=YnSv8ylLfPw

      Just take everything after the domain and TLD

      (everything after “piped.video”)

      And slap it on the end of another instances domain and TLD

      (For example iv.ggtyler.dev)

      End result:

      iv.ggtyler.dev/watch?v=YnSv8ylLfPw

      It even works with YouTube:

      youtube.com/watch?v=YnSv8ylLfPw

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      On the one hand, there are true alternatives like Vimeo. On the other, sometimes you just need to access an existing video…

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        That’s the service’s problem. VCRs and DVRs had ad-block ages ago, and those were commercial products sold at regular retail stores, so it’s totally a non-issue.

        An ad-blocker just means I’m not running optional extras. The web server says, “please display X, Y, and Z,” and the ad-blocker says, “nah to Y and Z, but I’ll render X.” It’s the same idea as safe-search filters to block websites, but it runs within “trusted” pages instead of just blocking certain domains.

        It’s the same with sponser blockers, but I personally don’t use them and prefer to manually skip them instead unless the creator generally has good recs (e.g. I often watch them once/twice on Gamers Nexus, because they only recommend good products, but block the others).

        Piracy is sharing content that you don’t have the rights to share. Ad-block just blocks content you don’t want to see. Those are not the same thing at all.

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          Piracy is sharing content that you don’t have the rights to share.

          I’d classify watching something on piracysite.com as piracy.

          I’d also class bypassing Netflix’s login requirements to watch their catalogue as piracy. But I guess that’s more a semantics thing.

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            Sure, because in those cases you’re gaining access to content that you don’t have permission to access.

            Ad-block isn’t that, it’s just blocking content you don’t want. You still have permission to the content.

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              You don’t have permission to modify any of the content YouTube sends you.

              https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#eb887a967c

              Section: Permissions and Restrictions Point 2

              circumvent, disable, fraudulently engage, or otherwise interfere with the Service (or attempt to do any of these things), including security-related features or features that: (a) prevent or restrict the copying or other use of Content; or (b) limit the use of the Service or Content;

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                Yes, it’s a violation of their TOS, but TOS is often illegal anyway.

                I’m not modifying any of the content they send, I’m merely not rendering it. That’s a very different thing. It’s just like blocking fonts (I do that too), if I don’t want an asset, I won’t download it. If they want to block me because I’m blocking part of their page from loading, that’s on them.

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                  but TOS is often illegal anyway.

                  Piracy isn’t only a legal thing. It’s just dealt with through the legal system.

                  I’m not modifying any of the content

                  Sorry, I was wrong. You are however circumventing YouTube’s playing ads.

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        Why would I reduce quality of my life tho?

        If all this engagement slop went out of business tomorrow, my life wouldn’t change lol

        This is shit ain’t food or house. I decide how I pay for it and if I pay at all. There is jack shit anyone can do about that. These companies and slop generators need to learn their place in the economy haha

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          Not saying you shouldn’t block ads, just questioning the OCs comment. If you don’t pay for the service monetarily or through data then imo it’s piracy.

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            Piracy is just a PR term by used by the industry that hates its users… Why would you care as consumer about some shiti companies?

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                Alright then.

                What definition for piracy are your relying on and where did you source it?

                Does DMCA even have a definition for this?

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                  What definition for piracy are your relying on?

                  The illegitimate procurement of media.

                  where did you source it?

                  My ass.

                  Does DMCA even have a definition for this?

                  Can’t help you there, I’m not American.

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        💯

        I think the internet is broken in this regard. Adverts and all of the tracking is horrific. Pay walling a website for $5-10 a month is not appealing for those who only want to read a couple of articles a month. But, without monetization good content from people who are good at their job will disappear.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’m team adblock everything but I am willing to pay if there is a new sensible solution to the problem figured out.

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      They have already started their own platform, Floatplane. And other creators are on it as well.

      Simple fact is though, YouTube is still king, and so leaving YouTube entirely isn’t tenable at this point. But they are already working on alternatives.

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      Apparently they’re going to address YouTube replacements in the second part of the series. Also I’m fairly sure they spoke about Youtube ReVanced a couple of times before.

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    I’m nearly there, except I can’t get away from Google Maps. There’s not really any alternative here that provides public transport information.

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      Yeah google maps is still the GOAT as much as I wish it wasn’t.

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          Idk, it’s driving a ton of ad revenue (sponsored businesses and whatnot), why would they nuke it? They also get free boosting from users leaving reviews as well.

          It’s not as lucrative as search, but I would be very surprised if it’s a loss-leader. Surely it’s not costing $5+B to run…

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          In my personal experience it has been getting consistently worse over the last 6 or so years. It used to be nearly perfect but now it is somewhat common that the directions will be wrong or misleading

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    If you’re on desktop, check out freetube instead of the buggy mess that is piped links.

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      Or just… install an ad-blocker. With Container Tabs on Firefox, YouTube doesn’t associate those links with me (at least not through my Google Account), and I don’t see ads with my ad-blocker.

      No need for using random websites that may just be stealing my data a different way. I’m happy to watch on YouTube, I’m just won’t watch the ads or opt-in to tracking.

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        Freetube is not a website, but a desktop application that massively improves the usability over YouTube’s UX. It doesn’t serve the same purpose as an ad blocker, which also works well for its purpose.

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          Ah, okay, thanks for the clarification. I’ve never used it, just seen it mentioned here.

          Regardless, I think it would be easier to use YouTube links instead of Piped links for redirecting links to it. Then again, I don’t have experience with it, only with Android YouTube alternatives like NewPipe and Grayjay.

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            Yeah in that case I agree. Tons of people have their preferred YouTube frontend, or application, or way of using YouTube itself, and we can all get YouTube links to automatically redirect to our preferred method, but if someone links their preferred frontend directly, anyone who uses a different method all of a sudden can’t use it automatically.

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        But YouTube links auto-open, which is why I post YouTube links. I suppose I could figure out how to associate all these random sites (Piped, Freetube, probably others) with YouTube, but surely URL redirectors work better when using the original source URLs instead of a laundry list of different URLs.

        On Lemmy, we have the Piped bot, so the inconvenience for those who don’t have those URL redirects configured is to go to the comments and click a link.

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      Check out my other comment on this thread for a quick breakdown of YouTube/piped/invidious/etc links

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    Replace syncing to Google contacts and Google calendar with webDAV and calDAV to next cloud.

    I run next cloud in my garage. DAVx is free from F-Droid app store. Setup is easy. And you don’t need Google accounts to store contacts and calenda in your home cloud

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        He’s not. There were unsubstantiated accusations from a disgruntled former employee that were proved to be false.

        Some people just hear what they want though.

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        He’s not, there was accusations against him and his company from a former employee that were recently settled in court in favor of Linus, judged has having committed no wrongdoing.

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          Not settled in court. An independent law firm investigates the allegations. No court has touched this and likely never will.