You have to laugh … I remember Glastonbury, up to my knees in mud - it’s all part of the fun. Having said that, it’s unlikely turn into a survival situation in a field in Somerset, so not really that comparable …
The weather-related disruptions have caused suspension of the cleaning and emptying of thousands of portable toilets.
This sounds nightmarish. People will start avoiding the portable toilets and it will be even worse.
Radical inclusion now includes cholera
I legitimately hope no one gets hurt but I couldn’t resist
Rain outs like this are pretty common at these festivals. The difference here is that I guess it is a bit harder to leave and more remote? I’d say 20% of the festivals I’ve been to have had some degree of mud issue resulting in some degree of infrastructure breakdown.
Burning Man is in a dry alkali lakebed way out in the middle of nowhere. Normally it’s extremely hot and dry the entire time, the ground isn’t dirt but a very fine powder that blows everywhere. When it rains that fine powder turns into this incredibly sticky mud and it becomes extremely difficult to move. It’s quite a bit different than your standard muddy field kind of experience.
It’s almost as if 70K people shouldn’t be out there…
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Because there’s no infrastructure, leading to less than an inch of rain causing chaos? Did you read the article?
This mindset leads to no one doing anything interesting ever.
Skiing, sailing, scuba diving…none of it makes any real sense as the environments do not tend to have much infrastructure for human survival. But I can’t imagine life without any illogical recreational activities such as these. It’s fun.
Do you… think people don’t live in the mountains? Or that a tiny amount of rain will sink a boat?
That’s… only something someone from Southern California would think. Rain won’t hurt you unless you stupidly pack tens of thousands of people into an area with no infrastructure.
Apparently because it’s alkali dirt, it leads to nasty wounds if it stays on skin for a while. Even in a dry year, people were supposed to use vinegar to clean dust off themselves so it wouldn’t cause problems. Who wants to bet that many of the people covered in mud didn’t have enough vinegar, or maybe didn’t even have any.
Yeah, this bit stood out for me also!
Woodstock 99 energy
Or Fyre Festival
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Last time I was out there just because I couldn’t find a toilet I just squatted. Of course dig and bury if it’s shit. But Def need to walk a ways from the camps if it’s still wet.
I’m stuck here in the sex orgy tent…send help…
but not too quickly, take your time.
Help is cumming.
Thread is giving me oglaf comic vibes
So are the cookers
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Joke’s on you. He took his house with him.
We’re here to save you from the virgins, Lancelot…
A quite apt metaphor of Man drowning in problems that can’t just be burned away.
I have friends that help out on the safety crew. I hope everyone stays safe.
Kind of ironic considering the climate protests on the way in.
How is that ironic?
A festival shooing away protestors protesting climate change and then that festival experiencing an extreme weather event because of climate change
Ah, gotcha. I missed the story. Still not strictly ironic, but I get what you meant now.
Is there a word for it? When I posted it I was hoping someone might correct me :)
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It just happened and was in the news so shouldn’t be hard to find if you have the nagging curiousities
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Not at all. That’s how it works. More climate change, more random weather events. Or if you like things simple “it rained because of climate change”.
Weather and climate are not the same thing
Yet they are not mutually exclusive.
It’s just stupid how people deny climate change because it can still rain and still get cold.
wEATheR and ClImate are nOt The same thINg
You deny climate change?
I’m mocking you for denying it.
A climate change denier doesn’t understand that climate and weather are not the same thing. My original reply was responding to the comment that said it was ironic that there were climate protests, and then it rained a lot, which is a climate denier thing to say. So I was challenging that.
They’re not denying it.
They’re stupid and definitely made it seem like they were, but they weren’t.
How do you thread the needle between “stupid statement that sounds like denial but isn’t” and just denial. You have a crystal ball over there?
He thought you were a climate change denier because climate change deniers often confuse weather with climate. The difference is time scale. Weather is day to day(like the daily temperature and if it rains that day), Climate is longer term (like average annual temperature or how Manny days of rain you get in a year, ect.)
You could have a bit of charity in your interpretation of someone else’s words. The guy you originally replied to didn’t seem like he was trying to deny anything.
It’s just stupid how people deny climate change because it can still rain and still get cold.
This is they’re comment. If you actually took the requisite 30 seconds it took to look at this persons other comments you would have seen that.
Doesn’t take a crystal ball to read words on a screen.
Do they burn a new man every year or do they burn the same person annually?
It’s short for “Burning Manny”. There’s one guy, Manuel Asada, and they burn him every year. It’s cool though, he’s into it.
Do you mean this guy? https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Manny_Garcia
I have so Manny questions…
Nope. It’s Manny Asada, he co-headlines the festival every year with his cousin Manuel Labór
It’s short for “Burning Manny”. There’s one guy, Manuel Asada, and they burn him every year. It’s cool though, he’s into it.
What’s the story behind this? Who is Manuel Asada?
“Manuel Asada” is the closest I could get to a person’s name that means “burning man”. Asada is Spanish for roasted or grilled.
Lol ah ok. I was wondering if that was a joke comment or if there’s some actual real lore behind the founding of Burning Man, etc.
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Santa Fe has a pretty decent festival.
But it has been a few years since I lived in New Mexico. It could have devolved into Corpo garbage.
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And it is generally human shaped because that made it a lot easier to spin it as “This effigy represents The Other tribe across the river. They are the bad people and the cause of all your problems” as needed.
It’s too bad that the “other tribe” technique still works so well in today’s politics.
If people ever started paying attention to the meta of the species, they’d realize we’re all more like each other than we think.
And in all seriousness: if you ever get the chance, go to an ACTUAL effigy burning festival.
I would, the way you describe it makes it sounds like a really nice event to see.
That is, as long as there’s not heavy torrent of rain washing everything out.
Thanks for the reply / explanation, it was a good read.
It’s pure head canon my friend. If you like it, feel free to take it and expand upon it
If you like it, feel free to take it and expand upon it
Nah, that’s fine. I’ll take the chuckle the explanation gave me, and move on.
It’s like a roast. His friends give him sick burns all evening one night a year.
The “news” is bullshit. I’ve got friends there right now and they’re fine. A little muddy and wet but nobody is in danger.
I’m so annoyed with our “news” lately (and by lately I mean years). It’s so fucking sensational and fear inducing it just makes me sick.
News told me LA was underwater and it was the end of days. Friends there told me some places had some flash flooding and it sucks, but overall it blew over.
NYC had that flooding a couple years back and I was going on a trip there and the news was literally warning people of how bad it was. I got there and it was literally like nothing happened.
Here in Seattle my relatives tell me they STILL hear about CHAZ/CHOP. Like asking if I’m safe. It was 3 YEARS AGO and lasted a few days! I literally walked through that park a couple days ago, but they’re terrified of it out here.
I hate the people who claim conspiracy everywhere, but there is a clear profit motive to keep us afraid and clicking refresh on news sites. I’m freaking tired of it.
One person died already.
As a consequence of the rain?
I don’t know the information about it has been slim. Could have been anything.
Yes, but was he in danger?
Well, he isn’t now.
I heard that was an unrelated accidental electrocution
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Don’t cut yourself on that edge kid
I’ve been to burning man, but even I can’t help but laugh a little bit at this… you wanted “radical self-reliance”? You got it.
But they didn’t really want radical self reliance. They wanted the Medieval Times version of radical self reliance.
Burning Mud.
Everybody there is now suddenly a Primitive Technology fan
Extinguished man
Mudding Man
Burning Man turning into Fyre Festival. Time is a circle.
I’ve come around. Us internet dwellers should take it easy on the judgment and cynicism about this festival.
People take the internet too seriously these days. Let the festival people have fun.
Now its Muddy Man Festival
Who would think an old lake bed in the middle of a flash flood prone desert might be an issue
More like “Drowned Man” this year.
The biggest celebration of capitalism I’ve ever seen.😒
This looks like a pithy truism but it really just sounds idiotic. You ever been to, like, a trade show?
Burning man is far from perfect but it’s a step in the right direction.
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Smokin them meats, meats like a brisket
Yes absolutely, because it’s radically inclusive so anyone can come. I’m also nor a fan of the rich paying people to set up their camp, flying in for two days, and dumping tons of trash on the road back to Reno… But everything good about the festival is still there also.
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In this provocative piece, a wealthy white guy reads a Slate article and goes on a rant about how fellow wealthy white men ruin everything.
Performance art is truly the heart of Burning Man.
You really start to wonder if the Lemmy Communists who make this comment in every thread realize that they sound like children.
Clearly you’ve never been to a shareholders meeting.