“Ugly” and “good music” are subjective
Video killed the radio star
Politics too
Lol, do you think only pop star music exist? It’s actually the contrary that happend. Now, more than ever, anyone can make music. This is a really bad take.
Beauty is, of course, in the eye of the beholder, but this is Richard Goodall. He’s a school janitor in my town of Terre Haute, Indiana and he just won America’s Got Talent. He will probably have at least a somewhat successful musical career after this. He really blew people away.
I’d like to thank this thread for reminding me to check out some new music. Just today, I have discovered MJ Lenderman and Still House Plants who both seem to be doing some cool stuff that’s right up my alley. There’s a new Mogwai track released a few days back and Sumac just released an amazing sludge metal album, even though I’m not really into sludge, it might convert me. A quick few image searches shows me that none of them are particularly attractive. Music has always been, and always will be awesome regardless of the physical appeal of the lead singers.
I want the milkman to deliver my milk… in the myorning.
Come to Daddy
“Ugly” people still make music but apparently you don’t listen to it. Shameful, tbh.
They aren’t even ugly, they’re just beautiful in a different way than media accepts.
Video killed the radio star
And the guest rappers killed the guitar solo.
Ugly people
are stillhave always been making it, pop acts have just make a pretty person pretend to sing it it sells better.just figured out, what? pop has always been pretty people…
Shake hands with beef ;-)
Primus sucks
“music was better when…”
Any version of this makes the speaker sound suuuper old and bitter. 😂
tbh we are all just snapshots of ourselves at different stage of the same cycle. The Simpsons did a whole thing about lolapalooza which starts with homer looking for his favourite artists in a record store, and the record store dude, and being directed to the oldies section.
The bands that feature in that episode are the smashing pumpkins, soundgarden , cypress Hill and Peter Frampton, all of whom appear in Spotify old school lists
Oh sure, everything new becomes old eventually, that’s just how time works. I’m more poking fun at those who let their nostalgia determine what is worthwhile.
My highschool music is better than your highschool music!
Music was way better when the musicians snorted the good ol yayo.
Nah, generally yes, but this particular follow up is hilarious. When ugly people made it haha
At least he doesnt like all newer music simply because the artist look better.
Pop is just as manufactured and fake as it always was, with the exceptional trend setter or two doing their own thing, but what’s just below the surface is always just as good as it always was.
As a fan of hardcore, electronica, folk, metal, and all of the genres that fall under them, I still get new bands. I still get new releases. I get cheap as fuck concerts and still get cool merch and awesome vinyls. I have zero to complain about. Hell, Primus, A Perfect Circle and Puscifer just made an album together, in 2024.
Anyone who says music sucks now doesn’t really listen to that much music to start with. Music is just fine, man. Maybe look a little deeper than the pudding skin.
Those $10 dive bar bands are always the best
An album called?
SESSANTA E.P.P.P.
Following a tour they just kicked off.
Thanks!
I hear you and agree with much of that. I am a fan of multiple genres as well. But, as far as it goes for jazz, jazz is dead. Anyone still attempting to play it is often a sad version of what was once great in the 50s/60s/70s. So while there’s plenty of music in other genres I like, always more to find from those time periods, as well as still enjoying the classics, it’s a little upsetting good jazz is dead, modern jazz is trash, and people who think they know jazz these days actually refer to some other genre, like rock. Somewhat sad.
Modern jazz is dope. It takes influences from everywhere, and turns them into jazz. Which is what it’s always done. In that sense jazz musicians playing electronica is no different to jazz musicians playing tin pan alley.
Jazz, to me, a layman to the genre comes off as anything from Miles Davis and Duke Ellington to soundtracks composed for animes, to progressive epics that span twenty minutes and spin into a free form improv that’s somewhere between art and math.
But aside from it being a flavor other things come in, like a jazzy rock band, Mars Volta or a jazzy metal band, like Opeth, or a jazzy singer, like Michael Buble, I don’t know jazz.
I don’t think as a normal person that I’m exposed to pure “jazz”, whatever it dilutes into, but I’m fascinated by the chance that there might be something I’m missing that you might mention.
I suppose I don’t know a ton. My earliest entry was that of Buddy Rich, the drummer. As a drummer, I wanted to relate. Play fast and all. Haha. Though my playing has all but ceased (the stomach drum and desk drum will always live on!), my love for his often high tempo pieces lives on. He played songs I believe others played as well. His versions were just more upbeat!
I’ll give you an example of a group I didn’t like all that much and that was the Glen Miller Orchestra. Even as a jazz fan I can hear the style of jazz people refer to when they talk about “music to put you to sleep.”
But BR was just the beginning. It sounds like you know more than most believe it or not. Miles is great and I think I have more to discover there even.
The latest artist I found, new to me, also from the 50s/60s I believe, is Bill Evans, a pianist. It was a YouTube comment I came across that mentioned Evans to now be their “piano daddy” and from what I’m hearing, I’d have to agree. 😁 But, again, I only know so much. (Talk as if I know it all though…)
Awful take. Last weekend I saw Mike Dillon with Phunkadelick playing with Brian Haas on the Rhodes organ. They played a wild punk-jazz show that is one of the best shows I’ve ever attended. There was a mosh pit at a jazz concert where a primary instrument was a vibraphone.
In recent years, I’ve greatly enjoyed things like AKU!'s album Blind Fury (drum/trumpet/baritone sax trio) and Ambrose Akinmusire’s Origami Harvest. A lot of modern jazz is blending in electronic influences, like Sungazer. Maybe you don’t like these things, but I can’t imagine calling jazz dead.
I’m not sure that’s jazz anymore, but maybe I have more to learn. I wouldn’t go to a jazz concert with a mosh pit. The two don’t go together.
Isn’t the core of jazz improvisation and breaking the “rules” of music? If that’s what they’re doing, why would we disqualify it as jazz? A lot of folks had this opinion of Miles Davis doing jazz fusion in the 70s on Bitches Brew and Live/Evil with his squeaky, borderline abusive trumpeting, or of Herbie Hancock doing weird space synth stuff on Sextant and funk fusion on Headhunters. I don’t see how what you’re saying isn’t just gatekeeping that’s not really in the spirit of jazz.
Have you checked out Live from Emmett’s Place?
Live jazz streamed every week.
I have not. Thank you.
I definitely don’t know where to look these days. I believe I was previously recommended SmallsLIVE, also on YT, but admittedly haven’t spent much time there. https://youtube.com/@smallslive?si=b4mxAHP1xqxv7QNm
I’ve also been listening to Avishai Cohen, a bassist, for the past many years, who has modern things and may still be active. Jazz is just not mainstream in any way anymore. And most people don’t know what it is.
