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    7 days ago

    “I believe good things but don’t want to actually sacrifice anything or be responsible for any of my actions that my prevent good things from happening”

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    “Socially liberal” right up until the point that we start talking about worker’s rights, the dignity of poor people, and the exploitation of cheap slave labor on the other side of the world

  • 🦇SalviaDivination🦇@lemmy.world
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    C-c-c-conservative combo-breaker!

    Edit: Sorry, I just wanted to say that. But I do think that falls under right wing with a sprinkle of social moderate leftism but even so, the debate of “can gays have the same rights as all of us” takes away from the ultimate leftist pov of “we should all have better material conditions as a class, including minorities”.

    Edit 2: and fiscally conservative is ofc “you keep whatever pennies you may or may not have, I got money Idgaf I’m not giving it away” which is the misunderstood antithesis of the concept of the far left.

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    I think in terms of American politics this means you are buying the shit that both sides are peddling to distract you from what the actual problems are and what is actually causing them

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    You have no party if you are American as our conservative movement abandoned any form of fiscal responsibility 30-40 years ago. When was the last time a tax cut was paired with a reduction in spending? Oh yeah that last happened in 1983

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    “I’m an uninformed idiot.”

    Conservatives are fiscally reckless. Look at every conservative president’s deficit spending, and economic crashes. Look at the states most dependent on federal funds.

    Even if you had zero morals and voted 100% on fiscal policies, the best choice is very clearly not conservative.

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        Hence why republicans want to get rid of Wikipedia. For all of its faults they generally do a decent job of going slash and burn on any editors that cannot fully back themselves up or have clear political alegances.

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            Anything that keeps a clear record of what people say or believe in, without that changing based on someone’s mood on a particular day is going to be a flop on that side of the spectrum.

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              I love yelling at my Facebook “friend” whenever gas prices go up a cent now. Under Biden it was all the damn time he’d cry about that but never acknowledged of it went down.

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            Poes Law very much applies, but I’m pretty sure Conservapedia is a troll. Just look at their list of “Greatest Conservative Songs”.

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      Don’t confuse “Republican” with “conservative”, especially on economic matters. Republicans are historically economically liberal, ie. they are for unregulated markets. A fiscal conservative likes to cut spending, yes, but not to cut revenue.

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      Does the fact that American “conservative” politicians are lying about it make it an invalid position to take?

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      Having grown up in a conservative household in a red state (US), and having thought this as I transitioned away to more liberal stances as I learned more about the world, I have to say: Spot on. I was an uninformed idiot.

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        The worst idiots are the ones who never admit when they’re wrong. Having the backbone to admit an error, change, and and move on speaks volumes.

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          True, I went through that phase as well. It usually came with a side of insecurity. Just happy to have grown in more than just age.

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      Look, I think there is something to it, but you really have to give details. I’m good with free access to healthcare, good with people marrying whoever they want (over the age of 18), transgender rights, etc.

      All of that. I love it all. But I’d rather not be taxed to hell and have those funds horribly mis managed. I’m okay with taxes but I know there is so much waste with my funds. That’s where I’d like improvement. I suppose in some eyes that would make me slightly fiscally conservative.

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        No, that means you just like a functioning government. That has nothing to do with fiscal conservatism.

        If you were a fiscal conservative, you would be against spending any money on healthcare, let alone giving “free access” to everyone.

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    “I don’t hate you because you’re a POC, a woman, or queer. I hate you because you’re poor.”

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    Either “I hate poor people but I love weed” or “I’m lying because my actual views would scare people off”.