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    11 months ago

    How about if Israel treats Palestinians with dignity? That would make Hamas disappear just the same, just without the dead bodies of seven thousand children.

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      Yeah? You, a random person on the internet, are sure that just this simple step solves the 80 years existing conflict?

      I am in favor of 2 states and in favor of minimizing death and pain in Gaza and in favor of giving people in Gaza a perspective, but that does not make the terroristic Hamas dictatorship disappear.

      Gaza needs to get rid of Hamas and Israel needs to get rid of Netanyahu.

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        11 months ago

        Yeah, me, a random person on the internet can Google research about deradicalization and realize that what Israel is doing is going to backfire within the next decade.

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          With Hamas (Their primary goal is to destroy Israel) at power, this conflict will NEVER end.

          The only chance to end it is with a Gaza that is not controlled by a terroristic organization with the primary goal to destroy Israel.

          I think, at this point, there is no way back.

          If Israel manages to get rid of Hamas, there is a chance to end this and prevent more death and pain in the future. If Israel stops right now and Hamas keeps the power, it will backfire for sure.

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              That’s a question for the “war cabinet” of Israel.

              Even with only 1 head, the “Hydra” caused horrendous damages and will do it again.

              IMO, cease-fire with Hamas is like cease-fire with Putin or cease-fire with Hitler. It’s just a time to prepare for the next stage of the conflict. Again and again and again and again. But as long as the people in power stay the same, it won’t end.

              Look at the Wikipedia article of Hamas and search for “cease-fire”… That’s not a new concept in this conflict.

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                So it has no plans to avoid the Hydra effect.

                Btw a ceasefire now means 2.3 million people will not starve to death.

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                  11 months ago

                  So it has no plans to avoid the Hydra effect.

                  We better hope, they have. And I don’t think, their strategy is based on “Let’s destroy and decide afterwards”. The Israel opposition is also involved in the decision.

                  2.3 million people will not starve to death

                  The 2.3 million is obviously exaggerated. That’s the total population, but I accept that argument. Cease-fire can reduce “starving to death”, but it’s clear, that temporary “peace” is not permanent peace.

                  IMO, Netanyahu has a time window for external support. The longer this takes, the less the support. And that’s why they are pushing this operation.


                  I hope, this ends with a Hamas out of power, followed by the Israel opposition getting rid of Netanyahu, who is very unpopular since the attack on Israel. With a new government in Gaza and a new one in Israel, maybe, this gives them the opportunity to solve this conflict.

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                    11 months ago

                    Let me explain the Hydra effect to you, maybe you don’t get it… Them taking this approach is guaranteed to create the next extremist group within a few years. Israel has already created the next Hamas.