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    As all the cool kids keep saying, now is a great time to try out Linux.

    No, I’m not recommending a distro for you, that is what DuckDuckGo is for.

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        Ubuntu is actually falling down the ad hole lately. It’s not great, even if you leave out the technical issues that the distribution leans into these day (snaps, amongst other things)

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              idk if im crazy but i tried like, all, of the commonly reccomended linux distros a few years back when it was my first time and really did not like any of them, and then i tried an arch derivative with plasma kde and then fell in love with arch based distros to the point that i absolutely do not want to use anything else. i tried endeavor os recently and have been loving it!

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            In the system update dialog, you’ll see something like:

            You’re not getting 53 critical security updates! Join Ubuntu Pro to keep yourself safe!

            Ubuntu Pro is a subscription service.

            This is seriously at the level of Norton “AntiVirus”, and it’s truly absurd and nakedly predatory.

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              It’s free for personal use though. Canonical have turned ubuntu rather corporate, but let’s stick to the facts.

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                Fair point.

                Counterpoint: why should I be compelled to give Canonical literally anything besides using the package manager to say “I’m using your software and I want the update”? Why do we need this additional new corporate-authorized side channel? What benefit does this yield, outside the realm of profit?

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                  I agree.

                  They’re a for-profit company, ubuntu pro is supposed to entice business customers. You and I get introduced, because canonical hope that we might use ubuntu profesionally and they gain a new customer. I don’t hate it personally, but I see why people don’t like it.

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              Wait, they’re withholding security updates unless you pay? Hope they go bankrupt.

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        Not sure I’d want to see that, tbh. It would only introduce more avenues for DDG to make questionable choices when they’re already on thin ice.

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      No, I’m not recommending a distro for you

      Don’t worry, everyone else does

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      Can you run windows games on linux without it being resource intensive like using a vm or something?

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        Running software designed and compiled only for XYZ system is always going to incur overhead when translating or emulating to ABC system.

        Game authors and publishers who only build for Windows are giving users a big middle finger and essentially saying “You must suffer through Windows in order to enjoy our product hassle-free lol”.

        What worked for me (which may or may not work for others) was to wean myself away, at first with only playing games that were built natively for linux.

        Then moving the line in the sand to only DRM-free native linux builds.

        Then advancing to only open source games.

        These days, I just don’t even play games and I find that it really frees up what kinds of things I want to do on my computers, such as daily driving exotic CPU architectures (and also I have so much more free time for actual meaningful pursuits like learning new skills).

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        Many distros nowadays have decent support forngaming accessories and a mix of Lutris and Steam/Proton have given me a near seemless experience on Linux. Smooth enough for my partner to hop ship to Bazzite for their ROG Ally.

        Sometimes there are small quirks, like controllers on Bazzite just work™ but on Vanilla OS 2 my xbox controller wouldn’t be recognized by Steam or games wirelessly (wired worked) but my DS5 controller worked flawlessly (including the trackpad that I never got to work on Windows).

        Most of the Steam library will work well and ProtonDB is a great resource for compatibility. Furthermore there are Decky plugins for setups like Bazzite and Chimera that embed the ProtonDB rating into the Steam game page.

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    I once ran the windows Troubleshooter to get an old scanner working, and the final page told me to but a new scanner!

    I plugged it in to a mini PC I use as a backup server and the scanner worked fine with Linux.

    And another recommendation issue: I noticed that my Windows laptop has a “reduce your carbon footprint” settings section that tells me to reduce power settings, screen brightness etc. but it’s completely lacking a “stop giving me AI search results in Bing” section.

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      Switching from Windows to Linux on my Framework laptop makes my battery last 2-3 times as long. They should just have a switch to Linux recommendation to reduce your carbon footprint.

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        Are you using a framework 13? While I find the battery life to be usable, if it’s that much worse on Windows I’m not sure I would have gotten a framework if I used windows lol.

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          Yeah. 11th gen Framework 13, so one of the first ones. Since I got it I had to use Windows exclusively because of some client work, and battery life was pitiful. 2-3 hours perhaps? Once that project finished I swapped out the SSD and put on Ubuntu with KDE. I was expecting the batter life to be worse, but it is demonstrably better. I now get more like 6 hours, albeit with my power plan on efficiency.

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            I have one of the newer AMD models and I find it has about 2-3 hours of batter life, though it spends most of it’s time suspended for my use case. I use Fedora and have the “balanced” profile selected. I don’t mind the poor battery life since the processor is leaps and bounds better than the 6th gen 2 core Intel I was using before.

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      Are you saying you use Bing for searches? If you don’t want that then why not use a different search?

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    Big company recommends users turn functional hardware into e-waste so they can boost quarterly profits.

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      when microsoft feels threatened by the recycling community being noticed, they add more technical constraints. Chromebooks are the gold standard for an intentionally non recyclable machine, neck and neck with apple.

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        The bullshit of chromeOS to be capable of running on the shittiest hardware but having an artificial lifetime for devices is stupid. To google’s credit, they did increase that limit to 10 years, but that was only recently.

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      It’s still functional hardware though…

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        Yes, and they’re encouraging people to throw it out. At least some users think to sell on the secondary market, but third party buyers can only get so much out of EOL Windows machines and there are only so many linux users with an interest in buying up old hardware.

        I myself have a couple of used laptops, but don’t need any more hardware for a while, so it’s not like I’m able to buy up any. I fear much of it will rot in a landfill.

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    Microsoft recommends you remain ignorant about how awesome Linux is.

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      Linux sounds good but I never see it discussed on this website. How am I suppose to use Arch if nobody else does?

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          You’re on the wrong part of the Internet for that. Try Facebook or Instagram to learn more about Arch Linux.

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          Rejoice. I’ve installed Arch on my home PC a few days ago. Haven’t booted Windows since.

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        I use EndeavourOS. I know quite a bit about Arch, the only thing I don’t really know how to do is install it manually.

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        Ppl that still use Windows even after all this shit has been rammed down their throats will not have a good time on Linux. You still need to be able to do basic trouble shooting. I installed win 11 a few months back and it took me three tries on installation to get all the garbage out of it.

        I think the best bet is an entirely new system from the ground up that has an open architecture that every company can equally implement that from the ground up and is as simple as possible. Like the computers we had in the 80s, but with better graphics. You want to play a game, you boot into it and it’s the only thing running. No anti cheat needed.

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          I think the best bet is an entirely new system from the ground up that has an open architecture that every company can equally implement that from the ground up and is as simple as possible.

          This keeps getting said by people who don’t understand operating systems. Even if you build something from the ground up, you still end up with an operating system very much like Linux and Windows. The choices that were made for each OS were not random. The principles of I/O, user input, graphics display, filesystems, etc, are more or less universal concepts across all OSes.

          What you will accomplish is making an OS that no one will use. Linux, Windows, and macOS already fill every market that can be filled. Microsoft tried to become a third player in the mobile market and their product died pretty quickly.

          Google has been trying to build Fuschia into a new OS and they’ve asked back their ambitions (from what I recall reading).

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          Yeah no thanks, a PC that can only run one program at a time? that’s just a console but worse lol. almost entirely useless as a computer.

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      … And FreeBSD! Hardware support is rather fine except for wifi, and that can be set up using wifibox packages (technically it’s running a lean Linux VM with wi-fi passthrough, but by today’s measure the footprint is negligible).

      So clean, orderly and patient.

      I can’t use facts and logic on what is optimized for what, but it feels more responsive than Linux too, with the same desktop setup. I guess Linux with a different scheduler would solve that.

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      And it’s essential to have a always on network connection 24/7 if you turn it off we will delete all your data/j

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    My PC is getting old and I might replace it in about a year whenever I can get an OK GPU for a reasonable amount of money again.

    I’ve built my own PCs since the late 90’s and this will be the first time I will not install Windows on a computer I built. Get fucked Microsoft.

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      I already did this 2 years ago and I still don’t miss Windows. I want my OS to just work, and that means not having big companies intentionally blocking updates and bullying consumers just so they can profit from artificially induced OEM license sales. It’s pretty wild how quickly Linux has fit the bill in recent years, and how Windows no longer does.

      Only hurdle on Linux right now is the transition from X11 to Wayland. Proton doesn’t have good support for it yet so I occasionally have to load an X11 session for some games to run. I can imagine that getting worked out eventually.

      Microsoft could have simply dropped official support for older machines and then literally done nothing and that would have still been better than what they did. At least then those machines would still receive security updates beyond next year, provided they could still run the latest version of Windows.

      For the record, if the arbitrary CPU block is bypassed, then it’s possible to install Windows 11 23H2 on a Prescott era Pentium 4 or Athlon 64. The true requirements did change for 24H2, but even then you can install that on a 1st gen Intel or a Bulldozer era AMD system. Microsoft can go suck a dick.

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        I’ll also add the audio stack in Linux at the moment is a hot mess. I’m currently trying to resolve a problem that seems to exclusively plague the rear mic input on my system and nothing else and this shit is fucking obtuse. It’s ridiculous how many competing audio frameworks there currently are.

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          There are only 2 current audio frameworks, right? PipeWire (most current, best compatibility from what I’ve seen) and PulseAudio (dominant for a long time but now being replaced by PipeWire)

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            Sort of kind of. The actual drivers are still ALSA which both pulse and pipewire build on top of. Then there’s JACK which is older but basically tried to be Pipewire before Pipewire. Lastly there’s WirePlumber which is an automation/scripting thing built on top of Pipewire. So depending on what you’re doing you end up having to wrangle with a minimum of Pipewire and ALSA, and might also need to mess with WirePlumber and Pulse (as Pipewire exposes a Pulse API).

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              Just install wireplumber, plus the pipewire modules for alsa and pulseaudio (pipewire-alsa and pipewire-pulse, respectively). These 3 will run any audio application.

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        Wine (which Proton is based on) has had support for Wayland since version 9.0 (about half a year old). Admittedly it’s not even enabled by default, but it works and I’ve played Path Of Exile through wine’s Wayland backend. There’s talks to ship the Wayland driver along X11, but not enabled by default yet, since there’s still some issues before they consider it on par with X11 backend. Proton might take longer, since I don’t think Valve will enable that before they add Wayland support for the Steam client.

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    Headline in another universe:

    “Microsoft aiming to push population into switching to Linux.”

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        I feel like people concerned about the expense of a new computer aren’t generally going to look at Macs, but I’m not too familiar with their longevity/support; is it a good length of time?

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          oh but many people cannot install linux easily its only rlly installed by people who know about tech mac might be their only option but idk how your gonna use mac for gaming ik also people are gonna still stick to windows 11 cause microsoft

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    Devices running an unsupported version of Windows will still function, but Microsoft doesn’t provide the following: Technical support of any issue

    Oh, you mean the support forums? I don’t think those have ever helped anyone

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    Man I really don’t want to switch to Linux but Microsoft has ended things forever with Recall. There’s just no way to stay with microsoft long term.

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      Fixed it for you:

      Company renders 60%+ of computers running current software incapable of running new software due to niche hardware requirement, abruptly ends support for current version next year, and tells users to throw away their computers and buy new ones.

      Oh, and they’re promoting their cloud storage option. Which may or may not have anything to do with their data harvesting? I don’t really know on that one.

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        “Abrupt” and “current” are pretty generous for windows 10 tbh. This has been a known deadline for several years at this point, and windows 11 has been out since 2021.

        Absolutely fuck microsoft with a cactus, but this is hardly new or surprising at this point.

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          By “abrupt,” I mean that Windows 7 ended service updates just last year, and Windows 10 will end next year. And by “current,” I mean that Windows 11 overtook 7 as the second most used version of Windows in 2022.

          We’ve known that they’re ending support for 10 next year for a few years, but that end of life timeline is very short compared to previous versions of Windows. If 10 had the same end of life timeline as 7, we’d be seeing service updates for 10 ending in 2030. And 11 may be the newest version of Windows, but it is by all means not the most used version and is most likely not the version currently being used by most people that this article is relevant to.

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      Not here on Lemmy where you should be able to run it on a tamagotchi for free.

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      Don’t TPMs just deal with cryptography code the same way a SIM card does for a phone? If you have one, What’s wrong with using it?

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        Platforms like Windows and Chrome can also use it for remote attestation, i.e., verifying you haven’t bypassed security controls and locking you out if they think you have.

        I keep mine enabled because it’s good for secure boot and secrets handling.

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    Boo hoo, I need a TPM, recent SIMD instructions, and DirectX12 support to be able to boot. Please help!

    Boo hoo! 🎻