Truly a pretty terrible place for any kind of social activity.
People here are super self righteous and unwavering in their beliefs, quick to insult others and be generally bitchy, pedantic and quick to dogpile. Worst of all while still usually slightly wrong about a thing, but unwilling to hear it.
It’s basically the worst parts of reddit users where we have boiled it down to the most affluent or socially insecure.
Even if it’s as simple as a question people jump to defend their position with insults rather than answer it cause they get worried the person might be confused and it’s best to just make sure it’s a closed community as quick as possible.
This isn’t an open community it’s a private gated one where everyone jumped the fence and is scared that the wrong person might have come in with them.
Condescending is not welcoming.
Upvoting cause they are your in group isn’t community.
Berating outcasts cause you at least don’t feel like them is still bullying.
I agree. Lemmy is the most unwelcoming social media platform I’ve ever been to. It’s why I no longer recommend it to anyone. People be like, “just leave Twitter,” but then don’t have the tiniest bit of tolerance for views that even slightly differ from their own. This doesn’t just apply to the comments either - my highly curated feed, with over 500 of the most toxic users blocked, still mostly consists of people complaining. Look at me; I’m complaining too.
Like most people say if you want more pleasant experience, it’d be better to avoid politics.
Dank memes is also tangled with politics and crudeness anymore and outlived their days.
Also you don’t need to feel obligated to respond to rude or unpleasant people, just block em’ and go about your own interest.
Lastly treat others how you would like to be treated. If you just go around trying to counterpoint argue and call everyone terrible then you might suffer some backlash.
I find that if you avoid the political and news forums and some of the meme forums, you avoid 90% of the assholery that exists on Lemmy. But that’s true for Reddit as well and I think is probably just a truism about the internet in general.
It’s not really the people, I think, that is the problem; it’s that people feel strongly about politics and when they have the anonymity and disconnection of the internet to free them from true social accountability, we express ourselves in increasingly overconfident and arrogant ways, which obviously pisses other people off and creates arguments. In other words, the internet is ideal for festering toxic debating environments. Our psychology just wasn’t meant for it.
I see your instance is federated with both Hexbear and Lemmygrad. Going to gesture vaguely at that being the root of your problem (or at least > 90% of it).
Blocking instances helps, but you’ll still see users from there in the comments and in other communities (not on the blocked instance). Some UIs will hide users from blocked instances. I know Tesseract does (I wrote it to do that), but others might as well.
My experience here has been pretty great after getting my blocklist and feed curated.
Yeah I am also federated with lemmy.world and blocking that would silence the feed a whole lots more while being just as helpful to my psyche.
The commies are at least consistent and up to date on things. Which is insane since they insist on a economic system from 200 years ago.I think the problem I have is that those outside of grad and hexbear also think their shit doesn’t stink but I literally have seen people openly mocking a user for nothing because he made a comment elsewhere that means they keep going after him to punish him for his opinion on anything. It’s cruel and fucking inhuman. It lacks all empathy and it’s not hexbear that was doing it.
I also don’t want to block people just for existing with other opinions. I couldnt do it in real life. I can choose to not interact.
Blocking feels like a bandaid for having a terrible community where everyone wants to be alone and right.Am a mod of a few smaller communities but I think I speak for a lot of us. We aren’t in every thread, but if you see rule breaking, report it. That’s what we’re there for. I know that sort of behavior is against the rules in my subs.
Wait until someone tells this guy how old capitalism is
I know that just fine. So what would knowing that matter or do for me? Or my comment?
Which is insane since they insist on a economic system from 200 years ago.
I think it’s just that your argument against communism seemed to be based on its age, i.e. it “being old and out dated.”
(Agree communism is not great FWIW)
Yeah i thought it was a clever dig against it and also fun turn since I think I have had better conversations about modern day pop culture on hexbear.
I just wasn’t exactly in favor of capitalism anyways just wasn’t the point.
Thanks for being my sanity check on that.
I question what your criteria for a good pop culture discussion is if you enjoy discussions with a bunch of angry neckbeards
Must be a different Lemmy you’re talking about. My experience has been nothing like that and generally quite positive.
Ok. Thanks for chiming in.
Have a specific community you like to interact with or are you a Linux user?
There are two keys to success for an internet community:
- limit the conversation to a circumscribed subject
- have decent moderation
This has not changed since the 90s. It’s the reason that any community devoted to “world news” or “politics”, whether it be here or on the R-site or anywhere else, is destined be a train wreck whereas one on “gardening” or “classic BMWs” or whatever will generally be pleasant.
Fair-minded moderation is what turns a cesspool into a merely unpleasant hangout, or a decent community into a great one.
IMO the gold standard for a successful community is clearly Hacker News, which (logically) combines a well-defined purpose with top-notch moderation. Rather than just deleting comments and handing out bans, the moderator there intervenes in discussions to push them back on course, often in a plaintive manner that appeals to people’s good sides. The positive results of this approach were even the subject of a feature article in the New Yorker.
This is a not a technical problem as much as a human one. Restrict the bounds of conversation, then take a smart approach to moderation. Success will follow.
There is indeed a LOT of bitchy pedantry on here. I’m not sure it’s worse than other platforms, because this is the only one I’ve been using for a while now. I block very aggressively and that seems to help.
Sorry you’re not having fun on Lemmy, I do get it. For some reason reddit keeps failing upwards and we’re not getting the influx of users I was hoping for. I’m still hanging in here but participating less and less.
Honestly Facebook is even better just cause it’s people putting on the clown makeup to get a ride from you. Apparently they pay pretty well for those stupid community posts if you get enough attention.
It doesn’t feel as self righteous at least is my point. People here deeply assume themselves smarter than anyone else here.
I saw people dogpile a comment cause the first person in a chain misread it and assumed correctly and every comment trying to pull people out of the spiral was downvoted and shouted at for being wrong as they tore each other apart.
It’s like chickens seeing another chicken bleeding. They don’t even think before they tear their kin to shreds.
For whatever it’s worth, I’ve had some very positive interactions on here, too. And I’ve seen questions answered when people needed help. And generally useful info types of posts. The comics and memes are often good (if you like those, those are not everyone’s cup of tea). Anyway, it’s not all jackasses all the time on Lemmy.
It’s not worth nothing. I just wish I figured out how to get it not to be the majority without having to silence the spaces where people are.
blocking the .ml instances helps, a lot. I made the recent mistake (twice!) commenting on Lemmy.ml. over there, anything NOT praising Russia, NK, or China is hated. they’re pretty smooth-brained and not worth arguing with. same with lemmygrad, same with hexbear. I’m fairly new to federation, and that was a big learning curve for me. a lot of the Europe or US based instances are way more open to hearing opinions and conversation, so I’d start there.
I’m not honestly fighting with .ml people. The people the most rude to me are .world.
I think they are just used as easy scapegoats cause they tend to be loud and passionate.
I can be in a memes thread and still have people argue in bad faith and call me a troll for asking a question about Linux. That’s not .ml or hexbear.
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Violent agreement
had an account on another server banned for saying this.
Everyone here is very disagreeable. .
.world is by far the worst for ignorant shitheads.
I’m not excluding myself , but I put opinions from a different perspective and just get slaughtered.
This is my 4 account
I clash a lot with all the terrorist simps & dictator loving Tankies, which certainly turns into idiotic arguments most of the time, but I don’t think I’ve ever managed to get banned from a server, which really makes me wonder what those “opinions from a different perspective” are. I’m guessing Trumpanzee’s and other far right goons will have an especially hard time on here.
Everyone feels apparently a deep seated need to be right and defend their idea of the world as if we might steal away their fantasy and make them miserable for it.
If they have an opinion on it than they are already right and anyone coming in to talk to them about it is a dangerous outsider.
Everyone is xenophobic and everyone is the other. Maybe it’s not just here but man is it pretty bad here and on .world.
