• A7thStone@lemmy.world
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    See there’s the problem right there. They shouldn’t have sold the robot. It should have been a subscription model, with micro transactions. That would have kept the investors flocking in.

    I’d like to say this is sarcasm, but unfortunately it’s the most likely lesson these ghouls will learn from this.

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      Daily slot check in, pull the arm and the eyes display the slots. Ez money make me a CEO.

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    Its 2024 and you cannot use a product the way you want to. Can’t you just use openAI api as the backend??

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    Buy anything that must login to a web server not located at your house and expect it to get bricked when that server doesn’t work anymore. Simple…don’t. Plus they are clearly gaining something from you.

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      I get the feeling, but tools come in many shapes and forms. If this was truly helpful for any kid, it’s a fucking tragedy that’s bricked.

      I assume it relies on external servers for processing, so it was a matter of time though.

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    Man those parents. Oof.

    I do not wanna be in their shoes.

    Telling your kid that needed an emotional support robot friend that the robot friend is going to take a nap for a long time and might not wake back up? Ooo boy.

    Helping a kid through a divorce is hard enough. This seems like a terrifying nightmare.

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      To be fair, electronics break all the time, and living pets die eventually - both things everyone needs to learn how to cope with, including children. This is just the Venn Diagram of those two pieces of reality.

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        I imagine the children with these things are emotionally disregulated in some way shape or form. A small group of children sometimes don’t learn to self soothe when they are very young, others in ASD struggle with it for a lifetime. Some with ADHD have a very difficult time when their medicine wears off and their emotions kick back in to overdrive.

        For all those groups I mentioned, the whole concept of this thing was almost brilliant. Something that they can go to knowing it will be able to help them guide through emotions while mom and dad are doing something necessary like cooking or fixing something outside, or in the bathroom.

        If you haven’t had to deal with a child that has emotional regulation problems, then it is hard to explain the difficulty that the failure of this device will make. It is true that they will adapt it, they always do, that’s how things work. The problem is that the emotional disregulation leads to broken things at home, aggressive behaviors with peers, getting kicked out of preschool and day care, etc.

        It truly is a nightmare scenario. The parents have to prepare for all of these things and a new way to help their child through the limited existing means.

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      A parent with autism is probably seeing it as another “could’ve been” that they get to toss out now, likely paid for by insurance.

      I wonder how big that pile of products is, failed crap marketed to insurance companies and parents for autistic kids.

      Big business.

  • Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
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    Welcome to the “brand new world” of IOT hardware where you are the product and continued service depends entirely on how you can be monetized.

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    I would like to think the community could work out the API’s and replicate them on a free server, but if this was just a glorified Alexa box, there is probably a lot more server-side processing that needs to happen to keep it running.

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      It sounds like they literally can’t refund people because the company completely ran out of money and is gonna be liquidated. Sucky situation for all parties involved.

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        If only there was law demanding to refund broken products before liquidation.

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          Or a law stating that in the case fair refunds can not be provided that the software needed for running the hardware becomes public domain and is published and released on a git maintained by the library of Congress.

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          And who is going to pay for that? If they could afford to refund all their customers they wouldn’t be going bust.

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            The law would probably make sure customers whose products are being bricked are counted as creditors. Ideally after employees (unpaid wages) and before investors. They may not get full refunds, but they’ll be entitled to something if it’s possible.

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            Liquidatoon doesn’t mean they have no money. And they still have some assets.

            Also that’s why we should apply mandatory copy laws to software too.

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        What they probably can do is issue an update that lets owners point it at third-party servers, and publish the API. They might even be able to publish the source code, though there’s a chance they don’t own all of it.

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      And Google refunded everyone who bought Stadia.

      But they both have deeper pockets than a startup.

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    What are the genuine use cases for such a robot? For when the kid has issues communicating with other people?

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      A robot has infinite patience and will never get mad or bully a child for fun. Ideally, this should also be true of a parent, but it’s not. From a less grim angle, a robot doesn’t have other responsibilities like work.

      For a kid who feels too shy to talk to people, a robot can be good for practice. But it requires a lot of attentiveness from parents to make sure the child doesn’t become dependent and moves on to taking to people once they get their confidence.

      Back when drag was a kid, we used imaginary friends instead of robots. But a lot of parents and children don’t believe in imaginary friends, which is a shame, because robots are a lot more expensive.

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        Yeah, kids focusing too much on their robot instead of other people is one of my concerns.

        A robot can teach the kid all the right things, but it will never give a kid the real social experience, which can get rough if a kid is not sufficiently exposed to it right from the start. Even now, as real human communication moves online in a large part, children grow up increasingly socially anxious and maladapted. From that position, I’m quite uncomfortable with “study from home” trends as well, as school is one of the key venues for IRL child-child interactions.

        On the other hand, I wonder what would happen if all kids first developed with perfect robots and then started interacting with one another. But that’s a subject for yet another unethical experiment.

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      It’s also probably a developmental aid also. As someone with a child, you’d be surprised at how laser-focused parents can be with regards to developmental delays or issues and ensuring that their kids have every opportunity to meet specific milestones.

      IMO while it’s absolutely not a replacement for human interaction, something like this with the right backing could be very useful to a lot of kids that need additional help.