Just to give things some scale, the longest book series in WH 40k is the hours heresy. It’s 60+ books. And that takes place in the 30th millennium, so it’s just background to current times lore.
There are more than 300 novels to read, and that’s just counting novels. There are also codexes (codecies?), other supplementary books, other game books (like dark heresy), and the many issues of the white dwarf magazine.
How absurd must Kirby lore be then?
To give you a hint, Kirby is actually an eldrich god.
Who eats other Old Ones
That’s it. That’s the lore. That’s how much people like to hype up kirby lore despite it being a big ol nothingburger. That’s why he’s just so upset about all that hype and then… the big reveal. Kirby eat things.
There’s also the fact that there are other potential incarnations of Kirby also wandering around the universe, except they’re evil. Also they seem to be able to kill omnipotent gods somehow. And potentially create them too. I think there was also something about Nova or whatever his name was being made by the same species Kirby is?
Which, because they’re all dead except Kirby and Metaknight implied that there’s something capable of killing them, too, that we’ve never seen.Also Kirby probably never killed 0. It would seem he can’t die in fact. And he seems to be what happens when Kirby reincarnates as evil instead of good.
The final boss of Kirby Squeak Squad is implied to be an incarnation of 0. In Japan his name is even “Dark 0.”Kirby lore is basically “Lovecraft for Kids” if you ask me. Way simpler than traditional cosmic horror, but it has the same elements.
The latest villain in the series was unusually weird, IMO
::: spoiler especially with the whole lab experiment treatment and cartoon biological horror moments. Also the unknown fate of the people who used its power to depart for some dream dimension or whatever. :::
In the last game, Forgotten Land, Kirby fights against a god level dimension warping motherfucker who corrupted all the animals and steals souls for power. After being Kirb stomped, Fecto Elfilis creates a pocket dimension to escape to that contains all the souls and warped versions of the bosses. A pivotal part of the end boss build up is a wall of flesh/psychic material chases after you, the goopy mass swarming with the faces of those it’s consumed.
This isnt even lore yet - it’s gameplay. Kirby is also haunted by Meta Knight, space wizards from other dimensions, and so much more. It isn’t hype to just talk about what’s happening in the game.
So Meta Knight and such are the good guys? (Serious question)
Depends on the game as the characters grow from enemies to conflicted allies who have to fight wizards and extra dimensional beasts. But yeah, they’re pretty chill around each other as long as no one fucks with the Waddle Dees.
It’s less about length and more about absurdity and power levels. As a rough translation, imagine if everything ever done by chaos was defeated by a single entity that ate them. That’s basically how Kirby lore works.
Codices. One of those times the apparent rule works out.
index -> indices, codex -> codices
As far as “information to fill your head with” goes, this is, of course, minor.
Yeah autocorrect was fucking with me, it didn’t like codices (but I spell like shit)
It drives me absolutely nuts when spellcheck refuses to recognize a word. You have one job!
I started putting Luetin09’s lore videos in the background while I work and fucking hell, there’s a lot of shit going on! I never even played W40k!
Don’t worry, most worldwide fans didn’t either. Outside of first world countries few can afford such a hobby so a big chunk of the community are just lore enjoyers
Are the novels good? I’m not interested in any of the tabletop stuff but I’d love to have a shitload of books to read.
I think some of them are pretty good! My favorites are the Ciaphas Cain series and Eisenhorn series. Gaunts Ghosts is also good if you want a more serious military read. If you want non-humans, check out “The Infinite and the Divine”. It’s about necrons (highly advanced ancient space robots/terminators).
I think it’s worth getting into, but you will quickly find authors you like and ones you dislike. I think the worst part of reading 40k is that you’ll find a book you like, but it isn’t a part of a larger series. For example hellsreach, or rin’s world.
Maybe watch some YouTube videos about the setting first to see what interests you about the lore, and then start with books about that.
I finally got round to listening to a bunch of 40k stuff, I’ve read some in the past but not a lot and it’s been a while. I started with the ciaphas cain series, it’s somewhat comedic at times and the main character reluctantly gets into situations thanks to his heroic reputation. Lots of fun. Now I’ve been going through a bunch of Dan Abnett’s stuff, eisenhorn and gaunt’s ghosts. They both take themselves a lot more seriously. There’s like 11 cain books and 16? Gaunt’s ghosts books. It’s all down to preference but I’ve been enjoying the guard-focused books a lot.
Warhammer, both Fantasy/AoS and 40k, have a billion books so if that’s what you want, I’d say definitely check out at least a couple of the different series. Horus Heresy was mentioned, then there’s a different series about Egyptian space terminators that is highly recommended, think the book is called Infinite and the Divine, then there’s all the Ciaphas Cain books, really there is an ungodly amount, and all of that is just 40k.
On the Fantasy side, most highly regarded is probably Gotrek and Felix, a guy and a dwarf that travel and kill monsters and shit.
There are a shit ton of series to choose from, you could easily spend a long time reading only Black Library if that’s what you’d like.
Jenkinsverse?
Kirby porn?
How many hours were the heresy? ;P
At a 10h~ average for each audio novel I would say at least 600 hours
Imagine all the people who would do the Matrix thing and learn martial arts… Only to gain the wisdom that knowing how to do martial arts doesn’t make it any easier when you’re fat and out of shape.
I like to think it would be like playing a new game from the beginning vs replaying a game from the beginning and youd still have a big leg up in the knowledge and methodology for training, and a good understanding of the progress you make
I did sports when I was young. I know how to correctly do the exercises, running routines and all that. I’m still not doing it now because all of that knowledge is worth nothing without willpower.
I had gotten to green belt in judo when I was much younger. I still retain that knowledge. It still wouldn’t stop my back from going out if I tried to throw someone now and I probably wouldn’t win in a sparring match even against a white belt unless they were a child. The point is like GI Joe: knowing is only half the battle.
but you could kick that child’s ass i bet
Oh for sure. I could toss little kids all day.
I mean a core part of most martial arts is just learning how to control the body.
Knowing how to move would still be a decent advantage for someone like that
The Matrix thing is only really useful when you go inside the Matrix, where your limits are your mental strength. Outside the Matrix you’re still a weedy little person. Look at when Neo and Bane/Smith fought: it was messy, ugly, and the opposite of choreographed martial arts.
Ironically, the matrix is also the one place where you can negate the need for kung fu because you can just alter reality with your thoughts by simply believing hard enough.
Theoretically, but even Neo, the most powerful RedPill, could only bend the rules. His control over flight, bullets, things warping under stress around him, etc, is as close as he got to altering the virtual reality.
Just like the Agents, you can bend the rules, but you are still bound by them.
People do martial arts to get into shape though.
And those with motivation and willpower do it the old fashioned way. Plenty of people would jump at the chance to take a shortcut like downloading the knowledge into their brain, only to realize knowledge alone doesn’t make one a kung fu master.
KIRBY IS A GOD UNIRONICALY AND HAS KILLED MULTIPLE GODS BOTH INTENTIONALLY AND UNITENTIONALLY, OFTEN OVER FOOD.
CAN YOU BLAME ME THOUGH?
YOU KILLED THE GOD OF KNOWLEDGE OVER A CAKE AND THEN LET A FUCKING GREMLIN GET THE POWER AND SHROWED THE WORLD IN DARKNESS. YES I BLAME YOU.
OK, BUT WHY ARE WE YELLING?
EMPHASIS
I ❤️Kirby
If you did this with the doctor who wiki you’d probably be clinically insane.
That’s basically what happened to Donna
I don’t get the Kirby lore reference at all. Is it actually that deep?
The games aren’t deep per se, but they just get a little tonally weird towards the end given the franchise’s cute presentation. You go from fighting a tree who won’t stop disrupting forest creatures to battling an unknowable alien incarnation of darkness who wants to take over all of reality. The series has a lot of, “Oh no, our friend’s been possessed by a manifestation of pure evil!” plots.
Kirby may or may not be an eldritch god that feasts on the souls of other eldritch gods.
He eats a child at one point.
An eldritch god birthed into existence as a counterweight to the overwhelming darkness of the universe, a force of nature, regardless of intent (I think, it’s been years since I took that plunge)
Yes
You boyz need to brush up on Ork philozophy. Whatever I do, I try to be at least zome bit Brutal an orz Kunnin.
Only den will a be Right an Proppa.
It’s endlessly funny to me that Orks are among the most brutal, caste-system based, martial strength = legitimate authority, but they are powered by feels.
A Eldar or Guardsman would look at a typical Shoota or Mek built by Orks see a series of parts assembled to a facsimile of the intended device - but it is the Ork’s belief that it will work, that makes it work. In a future where the Imperium will invade whole systems over rumors of ancient human technology that is superior to their creations, Orks pop up from spores and can bullshit themselves to overcome physical laws.
Yep, as a fictional concept they are fascinating. They’re less of a nation or a race, but more like an invading self contained ecosystem that makes supply lines obsolete. Their technology is so ridiculous that it’s almost useless in other species hands, but they can pillage their enemies weapons to their own advantage. Their entire species social class structure is based on merit, biggest ork is DA BOSS, because it’s biologically baked into them.
And if a small Ork becomes Boss, he will get bigger until he’s the biggest… Because they all believe he’s supposed to, so he does.
“Oh fuck, you’re gonna make me WAAAGH”
They’re like lobsters they never stop growing, more they fight bigger they get. It’s part of their life cycle, it’s like sleep for us.
REAL ORKZ BE KUNNIN AN BRUTAL NOT BRUTAL AN KUNNIN
DIS POST WUZ MADE BY DA MORK BALEEVAS
OI I KNOWZ DAT!! I IZ A BADMOON OLDHEAD, BUTZ I GOTZ TO DUM IT DOWN FOR DEEZ HUMMIEZ! DEY NOT READY FOR “DAKKA IZ AZ DAKKA DOZ” OR ANY’TING BOSS GHAZGHKULL IZ YELLINZ ABOUT!!
Am I the only one that spent the day reading kirby lore and found it plain? It’s probably me.
It is plain tbh. What makes it feel interesting is that it never explains 99% of the lore. You have to pick up on it through tiny little details in the game. Sometimes it’s more blatant, sometimes it’s super subtle.
Just reading up on it doesn’t give the same experience as “did the incarnation of the limitless void just turn into Kirby for a second there?”
To be fair, knowing the exact rituals and steps to make the demonculaba would leave anyone in a similar state of mind.
i mean…
…goddamn
I was like… children play this game, how bad can it be.
What’s so bad about Kirby?
Kirby is an unstoppable force with the brain of a child. He has killed multiple elder gods, often over nothing more than food. if you want examples, look up bosses like Zero-Two, Marx/Marx Soul, or Void Termina.
The most interesting part about Void Termina is that its core appears to be another one of whatever the hell Kirby is. So we possibly got a glimpse of what Kirby could be if he weren’t so childlike and innocent… and not so easily placated with cake.
That’s how it starts.
Beats the hell out of the version that requires clicking through 6 separate pictures.
Looks like Steve was introduced to the globes war crimes
Learned what DAOT humanity had to do to survive the fall.
Also what pre-fall Aeldari considered coffee with friends.
Brb about to ruin my day and view of humanity just to build it up again
