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    For its part, Tesla has been trying to boost its image with the help of President Trump. On Monday, the president took to the South Lawn of the White House to promote Tesla’s cars, apparently buying one despite having campaigned on an explicitly anti-electric vehicle platform.

    Somehow, I don’t think MAGA cult will buy electric vehicles in quantities needed to offset even a fraction of people who used to buy Tesla.

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      Imagine the CEO of Browning or American Rifles helping Joe Biden pick out a new gun from a display in the state dining room.

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      Half of them are broke as fuck and the other half are heavily invested in oil company stocks. Elon made a poor choice of allegiance.

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        A portion also associate EVs and their ilk with environmentalists, and would probably not buy one even if their very lives depended on it.

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      Well if they make a Cybertruck 2 that’s lifted and looks like the Dildozer, they might have a new market. It’ll get 50 miles per-charge, but it’ll intimidate their neighbor’s kid, so it’s worth the $380,000 price tag (financed, of course).

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        The GMC Hummer EV Pickup Truck has entered the chat.

        205-kWh capacity battery [three times the size in a crossover], still gets only 275 miles [2023 version].

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          GMC Hummer EV Pickup Truck

          …yeah, we are a very dumb species and it’s good that we’re going to go extinct in WW3.

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      which is great, because it will increase the chance that tesla will go down and with that elon musk.

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      I don’t think the MAGA Cult can even AFFORD electric vehicles, I mean, shit I know I can’t.

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      Yeah does Elon not know who his main economic base is? Environmental and techy liberals that love to cancel people, he got into the wrong business for his political leanings I think

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      Eh…put a lift kit, USA flag wrap, and a smoke machine on the cyber truck and they’d double sales.

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        I don’t think the Venn diagram of “ev buyer” and “trump voter” is big enough to double sales.

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      You can blow that exact point up pretty large. The MAGA verse is a parasite on the rest of the US. I would love to see them try to stand on their own as an independent nation. It would be Texas + a bunch of little shithole countries gathered around its skirts. They wouldn’t have the economic wherewithal to GDP their way out of a wet paper bag.

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      Ah, yes… Let me tell you about a little restaurant called Chick fil a…

      Never underestimate hate, stupidity, and laziness.

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      I think that’s what the Cybertruck is for, to appeal to Conservatives. I live on the edge between blue and red counties, and down in red territory the Cybertrucks are everywhere. (Meaning I saw at least four different ones.)

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    Same people proudly claiming the market is self regulating shocked when the market responds to them being openly fascist cunts.

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    For its part, Tesla has been trying to boost its image with the help of President Trump.

    Yeah, that’s part of the problem, Elon.

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    I shamefully admit I almost pulled the trigger on a Tesla Model S Plaid back in 2021 or 2022. Flush with a shit ton of cash, but fortunately I was reading reports of production build quality issues, many recalls, and ultimately pulled back my deposit.

    Looking back at it. The one decision I have no regrets on.

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      That’s the part I never understood. Even if you weren’t a Musk fan boy and before Musk showed his true colors, Telsa has always, ALWAYS been shit quality. I remember back in 2015, or so, there was a video of someone finally getting their Telsa and it had a massive crack running the length of the driver side A-pillar, yet they just ignored it.

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        I’ll have to be honest and admit back when I was in high school or so, I was enthusiastic about electric cars and his seemed like some of the best. He was also opening up the charging standards so that there could be a mixed playing field. Back then, I was likely ready to dismiss small critiques as the retaliation of the fossil fuel industry.

        God I hate old me.

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          All your reasons were valid though. Teslas were the best electric cars for a long time, probably not so anymore. Tesla as a brand has done good things, like you say opening up their charging standard which is superior to all the other competitors.

          Personally, I wouldn’t get a Tesla because they are sort of like the apple of car companies, e.g. anti-consumer and anti-repair. Plus, Musk owning it is another big negative.

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            tesla just had good marketing, while thier TESLAS have been lacking QC for quite a while.

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          You’re always supposed to hate or be embarrassed by the old you; that means you learned. It means growth. It’s a good thing.

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            Take it from an old man, at a certain point you will grow beyond having to feel “embarassed” by your former self, because your ego won’t be tied to it.

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              Old man here as well. I follow the doctrine of non-repudiation: I did a lot of stupid things when I was young. But I own them and don’t hate my former self for doing them. Mind you, I didn’t hurt anyone (except emotionally, and not intentionally) and wasn’t a criminal. If that were different, maybe I’d have to process it differently.

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                Probably not that much different tbh.

                I think you can understand something without embracing it or condoning it. I did a few bad things, it’s understandable that kids with that age and upbringing will, as long as you own what you did, put right what you can and atone for the rest, there’s no need to hate yourself.

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          Tesla was a long way ahead of the competition for a very long time, to the point where they were the only option for a vehicle that was genuinely a replacement for a combustion vehicle.

          Without them, I very much doubt EV market share would be anywhere near what it is today.

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            I’m not sure how it even managed to get so big when the EV1 was so beloved but supposedly killed by the automotive industry.

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              The EV1 was too far ahead of its time. The tech wasn’t there and to even accomplish what they did cost far more than they could hope to sell it for. An estimate that each EV1 cost GM around $100k to make in the early 90’s (so around $200k in today’s dollars).

              Battery tech has progressed massively since then and makes all of this possible now (even if it’s still expensive).

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              It has been, but the leaf was very much a “second car” for a very long time. They had relatively short range, an air cooled battery, and as a result couldn’t be charged particularly fast. The battery would also overheat if you tried to charge it multiple times.

              Tesla, on the water, had a water cooled battery pack, and could be fast charged multiple times per day, and much faster than other vehicles, meaning a road trip was actually possible.

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                The Leaf was cheap. It introduced many to EVs. They are super common third or fourth hand now. It was aimed at the other end of the market than the Tesla.

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              Even now, the Leaf only goes 200 miles. Less than a 2018 Model 3. Not good enough.

              I agree, Tesla was the viable option fora long time. The charging network is part of that even still.

              The NACS connector is a big deal.

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                Range is important, but so is cost. Teslas are too expensive for Leaf owners.

                My 7 seat EV only does at most 150 miles. But even now, two years later, there isn’t anything else that comfortably fits 7 adults. Let alone not over twice the price. So 200 miles seams ok to me.

                I agree standard charger connectors are important. But CHAdeMO is standard, just not in Europe or North America. Can’t blame the Leaf for not knowing that would happen.

                The Leaf is also one of the very few cars, least in the UK, which can be using bidirectionally. https://www.indra.co.uk/v2g/

                I don’t own a Leaf, but I respect what they did. You see loads of them here.

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        Tesla is basically a case study in top down engineering. Radical ideas promised by marketing, sometimes good and sometimes bad, executed in a massive fucking rush which results in tons of build quality and general delivering on promises issues.

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          Which only worked at first because they were a start up. At that point many people will accept the early adopter woes, but Tesla never quite matured out of it.

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            yep. They rested on their laurels, thinking their success of being first would always be success.

            and now the big automakers have their own electric cars, that are properly built, and damn cheap compared to tesla prices.

            and the first tesla musk had any design input on was the cybertruck, which is nothing more than the fever dream of an edgy emotionally stunted 13 year old, and built to about the same quality as you would expect from one

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          It was more to do with hubris. Scaling up production of anything as complex as a car is going to result in quality issues unless your production engineers are world-class. Tesla thought they were smarter than the carmakers, and learned early in the process that that was bullshit. Then Musk came in and relied on hype rather than engineering to move units.

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        The Roadsters were well-made. That was when production volumes were low and Musk hadn’t bought the company yet.

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        If you were an EV early adopter, Tesla is the only brand that delivered the range.

        So, they were the only game in town for a lot of buyers.

        Not nearly as big a problem now. Tesla has real competition which is why sales are crashing.

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      I feel bad for Nikola Tesla having his name associated with all this nonsense. Not even death let him escape from rich assholes taking credit for the work of others.

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          https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/nikola-tesla-the-eugenicist-eliminating-undesirables-by-2100-130299355/

          The year 2100 will see eugenics universally established. In past ages, the law governing the survival of the fittest roughly weeded out the less desirable strains. Then man’s new sense of pity began to interfere with the ruthless workings of nature. As a result, we continue to keep alive and to breed the unfit. The only method compatible with our notions of civilization and the race is to prevent the breeding of the unfit by sterilization and the deliberate guidance of the mating instinct. Several European countries and a number of states of the American Union sterilize the criminal and the insane. This is not sufficient. The trend of opinion among eugenists is that we must make marriage more difficult. Certainly no one who is not a desirable parent should be permitted to produce progeny. A century from now it will no more occur to a normal person to mate with a person eugenically unfit than to marry a habitual criminal.

          Oof, that’s a tough read.

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            It was a common view, especially among progressives, from the late 1890s to the start of WW2. The temperance movement embraced eugenics, so did the family-planning movement, and through it, early feminism.

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              Eh, I don’t buy this. There were always dissenters and weirdos and people knew differently. There were trans pioneers. There were vegans. There were abolitionists. Not everyone was like that.

              Tesla wasn’t a biologist, let’s leave it at that. Humanity’s greatest biological strength is their adaptability, which requires variety. Eugenicism is inherently disadvantageous to humanity because it reduces their ability to adapt and respond to environmental threats. A counter to that would be E.O. Wilson, see Half Earth, a short read that emphasizes biodiversity.

              Eugenics only makes sense to cowardly people who are afraid of being treated how they would treat others. It’s a bad idea to Cavendish Banana Hapsberg people (oh and btw eugenics is deeply tied to incest kinks, see Elon and Trump).

              Again, this is thinking that is pretty intuitive if you aren’t bloodthirsty and pathetic

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            I have read a number of comments from people with illnesses or other issues that are genetic, saying they don’t want to pass their problems onto the next generation.

            So, bizarrely enough, there is a certain amount of eugenics happening, it’s just purely voluntary.

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    Carvana bought mine at a decent price. I imagine the coming glut will have them refusing to buy Teslas outright. Other enraged Tesla owners should unload theirs asap.

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      Good on you for having principles. Unfortunately a lot of Tesla owners are limp dicked piss baby champagne socialists who’d rather just put a 5 dollar sticker on their bumper instead of selling it.

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        Not everyone is the position to sell their car, especially at huge finacial loss. So they buy the stupid sticker to make them selves feel a little better.

        Many bought the thing 5+ years ago when Tesla was basically the only electric with a real charging network and in a time before Musk went from eccentric billionaire to an out-of-the-closet Nazi.

        Now anyone buying one new today, that’s a different story (Which makes it harder to sell the damn thing).

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          “huge financial loss”

          So why do these people buy these expensive cars they can’t afford in the first place?

          Surely they would’ve made a good financial decision and bought a used Toyota at a fraction of the price if their finances weren’t in order?

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            Well, being financially stupid doesn’t mean you’re also a “limp dicked piss baby champagne socialist.”

            It don’t matter how they got the car. They could have saved up for years, have been cutting costs elsewhere in life, or just have a well paying job; buying a car at 40k+ and selling it for 20k, especially if they still have 30k left on the loan is a dumb move even for the financially illiterate.

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            Some people reallying don’t understand arp. Also staus symbol and they could have brought it realozed they are underwater on the loan and are stuck with it.

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            In 2012 a Ford Focus full Electric was almost $40,000 MSRP with a probable markup at just about any dealer in the country. The only thing that makes that kind of investment affordable is the tax break. The Tesla model 3 (in comparison) was around $25,000 MSRP in 2019. With a 3 year auto loan at 5-6% interest that cost is $31,760.50. The electric focus would have cost $49,305.44 for the same loan term and interest rate.

            And they can’t even sell these vehicles for bluebook value (assuming that the vehicle is paid off and they aren’t upside down on the loan for say a loan term of 5 or 7 years).

            A Mach e? Almost $39,000 MSRP. Chevy Bolt? $27,500 MSRP. Hyundai Ioniq? Almost $40,000 MSRP. Nissan Leaf is just over $29,000.

            There aren’t that many cars that are good financial decisions to be made in a market with so few options where range and ability to charge are majorly important to what you buy.

            Toyota’s Mirai isn’t even top rated and it starts at $52,000. So yes. Huge financial loss, and Tesla’s aren’t that expensive when compared to other brands (the cybercuck not included).

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      Right? Who knew that making a product that half of the population wants to buy and then making your brand based around the exact half of the population that lives in contempt of this product instead was a bad idea?

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    Honestly? Might not be a bad idea to consider buying a used Tesla after they tank in value.

    1. No money goes to Elon in that exchange, so you’re not supporting the fascist prick. They made their money off the first buyer.

    2. It’s environmentally friendly to buy a used vehicle, rather than a new one, as you extend it’s life and reduce it’s carbon footprint

    3. Since everybody is abandoning them, they’re cheaper than other options.

    My only reservation is that I’d be driving around a Tesla still, so if I did something like this I’d have to de-brand the hell out of it somehow to make it appear as a generic “an car”.

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      Your heart’s in the right place but this is bad advice.

      Teslas are still wickedly expensive to repair and there’s only the dealership who can do those repairs.

      And the parts break way too often, even parts that shouldn’t break ever, like the door handles that only Tesla can replace. The cost of that can apparently be over $1k. For a door handle.

      It’d be a money pit after the warranty period runs out. You’re still going to be better off with a run of the mill beater car

      Until Tesla allows other shops to do repairs, those swastikars will never be economical even if you ignore the Nazi part

      Your point about buying used being better for the environment also applies to older gas powered cars too, which will be easier and cheaper to repair

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        Obligatory fuck elon before I write the rest of the comment.

        I have had a Tesla for 4 years now and as a car they are quite good (newer models got worse).

        Super cheap to run, no oil, no filters other than cabin air, no yearly dealership maintenance to keep the warranty. And you charge it at home, super cheap and convenient. (yeah, same applies for any other electric car).

        Repair costs (had a few fender benders) are comparable to my old BMW, maybe a bit lower. A door handle never broke on mine, but I just looked and found one on ebay for 15 EUR in case it breaks in the future. Can’t say it’s unreasonable. There’s simply less mechanical things to go wrong with the car, and over time the 3rd party shops can do almost everything, for a similar price to any other car. And if/when the battery ages (8 years warranty), you can still use it at home.

        Fun to drive, too, and quite efficient, more than most electric cars.

        Nowadays I would never buy one new, and even used it somewhat does rise the price of other Teslas, but I’m not planning to sell mine, I would lose quite a lot of money to end up with a similar car. I am in the market for a second car and it’s definitely going to be electric, but no chance for a Tesla.

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          There’s a lot of hyperbole out there about quality and repair costs. I know people want to devalue the brand any way they can, I don’t fault that. But, my first-release Model 3 was a really great car. I’m really going to miss it.

          As I was walking away after selling it, I couldn’t help but say “it’s not your fault, buddy. You didn’t deserve this and I will always have a place in my heart for you. You were merely a victim of evil beyond our control. Good night, sweet prince.”

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          I can understand why your next one will be electric as pretty much all the benefits you describe are benefits of an EV not a Tesla.

          I drive an old beater of a leaf and have the same list

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            Benefits of specifically Tesla is that they’re dirt cheap comparatively, especially if you actually want a car and not some giant honking SUV or pickup truck. You can get a car with a 360+ mile range (3rd parties tested and got slightly more) for ~$35k after federal rebate. No one can compete with that and it’s not even close.

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              I can’t argue with that, at least in the US that’s always been a strength of their’s.

              I initially held the view that range was irrelevant if it’s a massive battery but even on that score Tesla seemed to be ahead of the game for a long time on the efficiency (miles per kw). Not sure if the market has caught up as I’m not at that end of the food chain so speak.

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                Tesla seemed to be ahead of the game for a long time on the efficiency

                Yes, the Model 3 is pretty much the most efficient vehicle you can buy (next to a Lucid)

                I initially held the view that range was irrelevant if it’s a massive battery

                The efficiency is actually WHY it’s so inexpensive (less money spent on batteries, which comprise a huge portion of their cost) and WHY it drives me absolutely bonkers that the only EVs anyone wants to make anymore are fucking Tonka trucks.

                They’re also ahead of just about everyone in terms of their charging network.

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              It’s one of the most expensive in Canada. 60K for a RWD base Model 3. You can get an AWD Ioniq for that, and should, since Hyundai can actually build a car.

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                That’s crazy, I wonder why that is?

                Does the Hyundai have 350+ miles of range at that price?

                Also I did say I was specifically speaking about cars, not SUVs.

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                  Range on both is over 500km. They’re pretty much the only EVs that have that much range. But the fit and finish on the Ioniq makes it a luxury car by comparison. And they don’t have that Musky smell about them.

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        I’ve owned a Tesla and I’d say your wrong about pretty much everything here.

        The whole point of buying an EV is that it stops polluting after it’s been manufactured (ignoring tires) and specifically that you stop polluting your local environment, making it out like used gas powered cars are just as good as used EVs is disingenuous at best.

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        Teslas are still wickedly expensive to repair and there’s only the dealership who can do those repairs.

        Where are you getting that from? There are plenty of 3rd party shops that can and do service Teslas. They even made their repair manuals public and sell the OEM components online.

        The cost of that can apparently be over $1k. For a door handle.

        That’s a door handle on a $100k+ car.

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        there’s only the dealership who can do those repairs.

        That’s illegal AF in the EU, or at least Germany. They already got into very hot water for trying to price independent repairs out by making their diagnostic software ludicrously expensive.

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            Oh they certainly do but the SME lobby tends to have more influence. Repair shops are businesses, too.

            And it’s not always a good thing, e.g. when it comes to the Supply Chain Act the fat cat lobby was way more sane than the SME one: Nestle doesn’t mind monitoring its supply chain for human rights abuses it’s quite vertically integrated and the practice is a great defence against lawsuits and also getting fucked over / internal corruption while the SMEs are fearing bureaucracy and costs. It’s not like slave farm owners would share their ill-gotten profits with Nestle, they pocket the difference to standard market prices.

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          It’s actually illegal in some US states, too. Right to repair at the federal level is still being fought, iirc. There was a lot of progress being made around 2023, but got stalled. Hopefully the current oligarchy administration doesn’t end up butchering that movement, but I’m not very optimistic.

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        But if you do you’ll be able to experience the Passenger Kebab Mode™ firat hand when the battery ignites!

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      No money goes to Elon directly, but it still increases the market price of Teslas. So someone else deciding between used and new might just buy new because it doesn’t cost much extra.

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      No money goes to Elon in that exchange, so you’re not supporting the fascist prick.

      One could say the same about not selling your Tesla in the first place.

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      One downside is that Teslas are uncomfortable. I liked them a lot circa 2016, the Model S used to be my favorite vehicle. They simply haven’t held a competitive advantage, or in the case of the 3/Y, are genuinely quite bad. I’d rather pay more for something better, and that was before the CEO became this.

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        I’ve had my model 3 for 4 years and it’s more comfortable than any previous car I’ve driven. What is bad about them (other than the fuckwit CEO)?

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          I guess I wanna clarify that it’s bad in my opinion, not objectively. I’ll return to this later. I just don’t wanna seem like I’m shitting on your car or the reasons you got it.

          Cars are typically comfortable when they have good ride quality and interior. The Model 3 has the absolute worst in both regards of any EV I’ve tried. The suspension is legendarily poor and is my primary complaint— it truly feels like punishment. As if every road imperfection was multiplied, not dampened. They could’ve given it the interior of an S class and I’d still find it uncomfortable. Yet the interior is sterile and features low quality materials. I tried my best to recall any one comfort besides heated seats, but I truly believe it is bereft of them.

          So, back to how this is my personal opinion. I am a traditional comfort guy: good ride quality, creature comforts, high quality materials. For those who don’t care about that, the Model 3 is a great “get me there” vehicle. The software is good and it has ample driving assistance. The supercharger network is unrivaled if you don’t mind funding Musk (I do, so even though mine can now access the network I won’t use it). It’s very functional. Just not physically comfortable.

          I’ll admit that most of the EVs I’ve tried are Model S competitors, not 3, but I’d still take either Ioniqs or the Mach-E over the 3. Also the latest Model 3 improved the suspension, but I’ve yet to try it

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            Fair enough.

            I have always had rather sporty vehicles so the suspension of mine (2021 3 competition) feels just fine. Sporty, rather hard, but not uncomfortable. Not floaty of course. Some people put a kw suspension for about 3k, which apparently makes it much better than comparable cars. I test drove one and didn’t notice that much of a difference, so passed on the upgrade.

            As for the materials, they are average or above in its price class. New VWs are notably worse. BMW are notably better but also 30% more expensive. Haven’t been in an ioniq but non-electric Hyundai and kias are worse IMHO. The interior design is clearly very subjective, but the materials are just fine. Not a lot of hard plastics or anything like that, everything you touch is… fine.

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              Yeah that tracks. I’ve always been comfort minded so the Model 3 feels really bad to me.

              For materials, they’re like one step above hard plastic. They don’t feel like high quality versions of whatever material they are, if that makes sense. “Just… fine” is a good descriptor. Unfortunately I don’t spend a ton of time in its competitors so I may have been unfair to the materials by comparing it to more expensive options. And yeah, in my case the barebones interior feels less comfortable.

              I do hope you keep liking the car! None of us ex Tesla supporters could have seen this coming, so it shouldn’t hinder your enjoyment.

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    Ill give you $200 for the battery, the motor, and some chonky relays if you scrape the branding off.

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          I reckon the Mazda badge is a good call as the tesla 3 has the vibe of a Mazda I think.

          I rmemeber rocking up to guys place to buy a sofa and his mum was there, I said I really liked her Hyundai Coupe and she said it wasn’t one as she’d got different badges on it. Found it so funny that it was a nice looking car at the time but she clearly couldn’t cope with the idea of owning a Hyundai

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            There’s a lot of cars where even a car nut wouldn’t pick they’d been badge swapped.

            Most hatchbacks you can only tell apart by the shape of the lights.

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      I was joking with some friends about doing exactly this. Schuck it down to just the battery and minimal drivetrain, and make a very heavy go-kart.

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        I’ll be 100% honest, I don’t know but I like to think I would at least get the motor going for a little bit before it melts and stinks up the house. Just like most things i play around with.

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    Who will service those when Tesla goes out of business? Where will you get parts? Yeah, it’s time to jump ship

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      You can still get aftermarket parts for Pontiac vehicles. Then again Pontiac didn’t go around suing everyone who even thought about making aftermarket parts for their vehicles.

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        Pontiac was a part of GM, who standardized most parts across all their brands decades ago.

        There’s no parent company for Tesla.

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      There are already aftermarket batteries. The biggest problem would be autobody panels.

      That said, while I hope Tesla stock continues to crash, not much chance of them going out of business.