• Aisteru@lemmy.aisteru.ch
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    6 days ago

    Now, I’m all for the freedom of defending your country… But am I the only one thinking that this is presented in a bit too much of a good light? Like, what is the title supposed to make me feel? If the nationalities were reversed, would this have been posted here still?

    I genuinely thank you for sharing this info, but I can’t help feeling uncomfortable reading about atrocious killing devices in a technology thread.

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      6 days ago

      I’m right there with you. My first reaction to the video in the article was “well that’s terrifying”.

    • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
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      Russia is already using thermite charges, thermobaric weapons and tear gas. They get what’s coming to them.

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          Even the US uses white phosphorus against infantry in violation of international law. I can’t imagine what we’d resort to with Russian soliders on our soil.

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            WP isn’t illegal. It’s illegal to torch down civilian structures, with Willy Pete or any other technology. But it’s always been fair game to use incendiaries against combatants. War is hell.

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            Oh man…Geneva convention would be out the window and most land based invaders at that point would probably beg to be shipped back. And it’s not because of the military in America. It’s because of its inhabitants. When the banjos start tuning in the Appalachian forests you know Hell is a safer space than anywhere you’re going to reach.

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            Lol Russian soldiers on US soil? The US military would do good to hang back, avert their gaze, and let the US citizens handle things how they see fit. Plausible deniability and all that

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              This fucking waffle maker in my comments above yours keeps trying to convince me that America hasnt “experienced” war. And that war is horrible, as if America isn’t the most successful War tribe in all of recorded history.

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                If successful means achieving none of your strategic objectives, but wasting trillions killing a whole bunch of civilians, sure.

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                  Yea that.

                  But like also WW1, WW2 on two separate fronts…at the same time, Korean war, Kosovo.

                  Honerable mentions: Greek civil war, Afghanistan Russian war, Arabian Israel wars.

                  Oh right…lol. the American civil war, and the American revolution, the war of 1812, the Spanish American war…

                  Well shit Skippy …weve been in some conflicts. How many aircraft carriers does your country have floating around?

      • tias@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Yeah I’m not sure that war crimes work that way. You don’t get a pass because the opponent is doing illegal things.

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          Using incendiaries away from civilians isn’t a war crime regardless of which side uses them

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          You literally get a pass because its not illegal to set an enemy on fire any more than its illegal to blow a hole in their guts with a bullet or fill their torso full of shrapnel. I’m not sure why you think it would be.

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          If your enemy makes it very clear that they want to see you dead and your nation destroyed no matter the cost, why should you be beholden to giving them an advantage? Ukraine won’t win with moral superiority.

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        I see where you’re coming from. It’s like tolerating the intolerant. There is a point where Ukraine needs to choose between total destruction by Russia, or doing whatever it takes to get their land and people back.

        It’s not like Russia is held accountable for war crimes. Why would we be so critical of Ukraine when no one is doing anything to stop the atrocities of Putin?

        I don’t happily endorse the thermite drones, but you won’t find me playing judge on what Ukraine is doing. They didn’t start this war.

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        “They did it first” doesn’t support the point, even when they’re as bad as Russia has been.