Watch The Boys for exactly that. You won’t get that from Disney.
Also the Invincible animated series does it too.
I totally agree with both your comments, but to be fair, they said “movies”.
Maybe season 1 of the boys. It devolves into disgust porn in the later seasons.
I made it to the first episode of season 3. It was just trying way too hard at that point to not be a show anymore but pure shock value
The wild thing is that the shock value was toned down from the comics
Watch The Boys.
And Invincible
Came here to say both of these lol.
I mean just the first episode of Invincible shows him absolutely destroying an old woman because he doesn’t have a handle on his powers yet. And then later he finds out she didn’t make it and he almost quit being a superhero because of it.
But even in The Boys it’s just the bad guys doing that.
The dark reality is that the good guys need to watch themselves too.
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They don’t mostly because they know the risk.
In Gen V, the main character gets her powers by accidentally killing her parents.
And in the latest season, Huey’s dad kills a bunch of patients because of his confusion due to dementia.
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Bro, the show opens with A-Train running through Huey’s girlfriend and turning her into flesh casserole. It’s the exposition to the main plot of the movie. They talk about how it happens all the time and they have a whole procedure for damage control. They introduce a support group for people hurt by supes, including a guy whose girlfriend accidentally froze his dick off during sex.
I suppose there’s an argument that supes aren’t really “good guys”, but that traditional good vs. bad dichotomy isn’t really the point of the show.
The “good” Supes also occasionally have to deal with collateral damage they cause
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Like Starlight accidentally blinding a bystander when stopping a robbery, which then comes back to haunt her
That was such a bullshit copout. Like, yeah she blinded someone, which is horrible in its own right, but in the story if Starlight hadn’t acted then the woman would have been dead instead of blind. I’d take that trade any day.
Super Crooks has this, iirc there’s even a comment at one point about the heroes having a bigger body count than the villains.
the penis scene was just pure gold.
It always bugged me how in Man of Steel, Superman has to deal with the moral quandary of breaking the bad guy’s neck at the cost of vaporizing a family.
Like they spent the previous 20 minutes punching each other through buildings. No way that was the first family they killed.
I’ve missed a lot of DC movies, but wasn’t Ben Affleck’s Batman inspired to come out of retirement due to this … Or something like that? I might be completely bungling the details.
Yeah, more or less. Then they stop fighting because both of their moms are named Martha. That movie is one of the worst things ever created.
Terrible movie due to the plot, but it has some really good looking scenes
I think Hancock had a few instances of that
Never got around to that one, worth it?
Critically panned, across the board, but I enjoyed it nonetheless. It could have done with another couple of rounds of script polishing.
It was two movies Frankensteined into one. The first half is awesome. The second, not so much.
There’s a deleted scene where Hancock meets a woman at a bar and takes her home. It’s kinda weirdly emotional and totally should’ve been left in the movie imo. Here’s the scene.
It was a script undirected for 12 years
It’s not a good movie but it’s a fun watch if you’re not expecting much.
It’s okay, not memorable though. I can’t seems to recall anything from that movie but i do remember i have fun watching it.
I remember liking half of it. Oddly enough, I can’t remember whether I liked the first half where he’s a drunken bum, or the second half, where he’s more together, but I specifically remember thinking half of it was decent at least.
So yeah, I agree that it’s not very memorable.
You liked the drunken bum half. It just gets more stupid when the other guy’s woman is a super hero too.
I mean, sort of. It was funny when she got pissed off and did some stupid stuff to make him leave. Didn’t she throw a refrigerator, and him with it, through the house wall?
I wanted to like the movie, but drunk will smith just didn’t do it at all for me.
The first 2/3rds of the movie is really good. The last part is pretty bad. Overall I enjoyed it.
They cut all such scenes and pasted into The Boys, in a Mark Twain style “Sprinkle these around as you see fit!”.
Perhaps they are going for a tone of heroic escapism, or fantastical drama over gory and downbeat “realism”.
If you really just want to see heroes maiming people it’s been done. Invincible, The Boys (show and comic). Even back to the 90s there were comics like Stormwatch that centered on the premise of “realistic” consequences of super powers.
The web serial Worm by Wildbow, written like 10-15 years ago maybe, is also a pretty good superhero deconstruction.
Aye, it’s all about what theme you’re exploring or mood that’s being set. We don’t have batman exploding into mist when he fights people who can lift planes/cruise ships with their bare hands, because that’s not the story being told. When the theme is about the consequences of powers, rather than the escapism and being good (the ‘super’ part of superman being his morals and convictions), we get the boys and their (gory) explosions.
Didn’t The Incredibles have a backstory like that where supes are basically illegal after they caused too much collateral damage?
Someone did an analysis of what would happen if Superman actually punched you at full strength, and it turns out his fist would never connect with you, because you’d be vaporized by the wave of nuclear explosions erupting from his knuckles as they caused air molecules to fuse in nanoseconds.
I mean this is how Civil War and Age of Ultron comes about?
I think Zach Snyder tried for this in Batman v Superman but of course he did so with no appreciation of the themes or subtlety. And Martha.
Why did you say that name?
It’s hard to believe, but Martha ends up doing a lot of collateral damage in this one.
Brightburn. I haven’t seen it (yet), but alternate universe where Superman becomes evil. Trailers showed him absolutely wrecking his classmates in anger and frustration.
That movie is pretty fucked, but in a weird way that makes it good? Like it’s kinda weird seeing Elizabeth Banks and that one guy from The Office being the parents, but they do a good job.
There’s one scene in particular that kinda fucked me up, but you haven’t seen it so I won’t tell you.
Ooh! This sounds great! I’m going to look it up right now.
The kid (alien) was sent by his race to conquer the planet, like the Viltrumites in Invincible. The ship activated his genetic programming when he came of age.
In many alternate Superman-esque stories, and in one arc of canon Superman, the alien race doesn’t look like humans. The ship Kal-El was sent in altered his DNA to make him resemble whatever species found him. I’ve always liked that take better. It’s probably the same for Brightburn, but never shown.
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Misfits is not really what you’re asking for, but is a more light hearted a-typical superhero show about people who were sentenced to community service all accidentally gaining super powers. They mostly use their powers selfishly but not in evil ways. It’s pretty well done as far as character growth
This was a great show.
While only a comic its a fantastic telling of a superhero going insane and the others trying to stop him. The Plutonian levels whole cities and kills millions in the first issue lol. It’s fucking wild.
Exploring the failed attempts and the real struggles of being a hero.
Man of Steel Woman of Kleenex by Larry Niven is a weird take on this
